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    altcmd Silver Members @freeheeler
    last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 20:32

    @freeheeler Thanks! Will do!

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      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @altcmd
      last edited by mikekoski490 24 Nov 2022, 20:44

      @altcmd Mine is OK generally but I would prefer if there was an option to choose ‘Stop sleep tracking?’, so you can lie in bed with a coffee and not have that tracked as sleep. COROS had that option. I also noticed last night a 1 beat difference between Min. HR values on the same nights SA results and am still getting the odd gap in the sleep HR graph (?).

      Screenshot_20221124-122925[1].png Screenshot_20221124-122942~2[1].png

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        isazi Moderator @mikekoski490
        last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 21:07

        @mikekoski490 if I’m not wrong the 1bpm difference between watch and SA is rounding. Been there for a while I think.

        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

        Blog: isazi's home

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @altcmd
          last edited by Brad_Olwin 24 Nov 2022, 22:01

          @altcmd mine is set from 22:30 to 6:30 and I typically wake 5:30 to 6:00 with no detection issues. For me Suunto does not recognize a short awake period during the night but does effectively detect sleep and morning wake times.

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            altcmd Silver Members @isazi
            last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 22:34

            @isazi Any thoughts on why I am seeing a 12 bpm difference?

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              mikekoski490 Bronze Member @isazi
              last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 22:36

              @isazi Thanks. Im not fussed by it, just thought Suunto would simply put ‘value of X = value of Y’ lol. I have had as much as a 4 beat difference too, BUT again its about trends not a single night, and I find Suunto to be more accurate reflection of how I felt my sleep was (Garmin was ALWAYS wrong).

              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

              Current: Suunto Race Ti

              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

              Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                isazi Moderator @altcmd
                last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 22:36

                @altcmd is daily or sleep the lowest?

                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                Blog: isazi's home

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                  altcmd Silver Members @isazi
                  last edited by altcmd 24 Nov 2022, 22:38

                  @isazi sleep is lower, naturally.

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                    altcmd Silver Members @mikekoski490
                    last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 22:39

                    @mikekoski490 thanks for the input.

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                      isazi Moderator
                      last edited by 24 Nov 2022, 22:45

                      If more people are seeing this, post in the Android or iOS app screenshots, and I will forward them to Suunto. And also write the app version you use.

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                      Blog: isazi's home

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                        altcmd Silver Members @isazi
                        last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 07:09

                        @isazi 2bpm off today. iOS 2.18IMG_0127.png

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                          Spree Bronze Member
                          last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 08:44

                          I’ve noticed this as well.

                          I think that if sleep tracking is activated, and you track at least a bit of sleep, then taking off the watch - so no movement - around the sleep time (imemdiately before or immediately after) will result in additional time “sleeping” being counted.

                          I guess it might be an unintende consequence of wanting to continue counting when you wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, or to a crying child.

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                            Likarnik Bronze Member @freeheeler
                            last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 09:13

                            @freeheeler For me it works quite good too regarding when I go to sleep and when I wake up, but I have S9P if algorithm is different. I always open SA to sync before setting alarm and put my phone in airplane mode. This way even if I am reading or watching something before bed, it does not count as sleep time, at least for me. Otherwise it did. Maybe my info is useful for someone.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @altcmd
                              last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 15:25

                              @altcmd In the last two photos you show, when did the 58 minimum occur? If not during sleep they may be different as the minimum in the first screenshot is specific for sleep. I checked mine and I am occasionally of by 1 bpm. As @isazi stated that is a rounding error. The watch does not read HR directly but calculates from IBI I believe.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                The_77 Silver Members @mikekoski490
                                last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 18:51

                                @mikekoski490 you can manually stop sleep tracking by going to an activity and loading into a run/whatever, that triggers the end of sleep register. Workaround but it functions fine.

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                                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member @The_77
                                  last edited by 25 Nov 2022, 20:32

                                  @The_77 Perfect. Thanks for the tip!

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