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    isazi Moderator @DMytro
    last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 19:48

    @DMytro yes, VO2max does not work well for hiking, and works for trail running only if the trail is actually runnable. If it’s steep and you power hike, it is not going to work. I would also prefer to have it only for running, well maybe if I was Suunto I would save money from Firstbeat licensing and remove it completely. If you want to know your VO2max do a lab test, or some kind or proxy test.

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      DMytro @isazi
      last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:01

      @isazi well, I actually like the idea of having some sort of fitness level displayed on the watch, doesn’t need to be VO2Max tho. What I would like is if it would work for more sports. But in the current state I’d rather ditched it as well.

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        Łukasz Szmigiel
        last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:16

        It makes me wonder why it’s estimated for hiking when it’s so unreliable on everything but running on flat.

        S9PP 2.40.44

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          DMytro @Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:20

          @Łukasz-Szmigiel I suppose some might consider speed walking in the woods to be hiking. And I can imagine the algorithm working reasonalbly well (at least equally well as for trail running) for this specific case. But I guess having a toggle in SA or in the watch should solve this problem.

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            Łukasz Szmigiel @DMytro
            last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:26

            @DMytro I’ve been asking for this for quite some time now. Well, at last there’s music control per sports in S9PP.

            S9PP 2.40.44

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              DMytro @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:34

              @Łukasz-Szmigiel ah cool, I didn’t know that!

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                isazi Moderator
                last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 20:56

                As you know from a recent survey, Suunto is looking into performance metrics and more. I guess we’ll see it next year.

                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                  Bradleyd Bronze Member @DMytro
                  last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 21:04

                  @isazi, I took a two hour walk recently, with a “good” recorded GPS track and no HR recorded using an S5. The V02 Max estimate for that training was 50.6. Super surprised to see an estimated value without any heart rate recorded. That V02 value matches my most recent training run, best guess that was just passed through, but it’s confusing when some actual runs will have a null value for that training.

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @Bradleyd
                    last edited by 27 Nov 2022, 21:11

                    @Bradleyd vo2max estimation shouldn’t update when there’s no hr. Most likely you’re seeing last value from your run.

                    S9PP 2.40.44

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                      Bradleyd Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                      last edited by 28 Nov 2022, 00:47

                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel Agree that this number is likely from a previous training event…but…the V02Max estimate is listed as a property for the walk where there was no HR record. I also have a recent run training that is an ordinary10K, no different from the training previous or next. In this case, though, no VO2Max appears in the summary.

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                        DMytro @Bradleyd
                        last edited by 28 Nov 2022, 08:08

                        @Bradleyd as for the walk: I think vO2 is a cumulative value, so if it didn’t change because no HR was recorded, it’s still shown at the end.

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