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    Egika Platinum Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
    last edited by 13 Feb 2023, 10:19

    @Łukasz-Szmigiel there is quite a few variables going into the calculation.
    As power is the effort needed to move your body along the road or up a hill, at least speed, altitude change, weight will go into the equation.
    Plus there is acceleration and deceleration und possibly efficiency (guesstimate from arm movement).

    What it cannot take into account is head or tailwind though…

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      Łukasz Szmigiel @Egika
      last edited by 13 Feb 2023, 10:27

      @Egika lack of wind in calculation is a bummer. Also - changing of effort due to ground surface change.

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
        last edited by 13 Feb 2023, 16:03

        @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Wrist Running Power:

        @Egika lack of wind in calculation is a bummer. Also - changing of effort due to ground surface change.

        The wind adds or detracts very little to power unless the wind is very strong and would affect HR as well. This is true from Stryd’s pod. I am not sure wind is worth it. Instantaneous power IMHO is not very useful, but the zones definitely are. Changes in your direction vs. wind would have to be near instantaneous.

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          Łukasz Szmigiel @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by 13 Feb 2023, 16:37

          @Brad_Olwin well, this is the case. I’m not thinking about a lil windy, but mouthful of wind. I usually run through the fields, and there are hardly any trees, and it’s flat as a pancake. I can easily go +/- 20 HR if I’m with or against the wind. But the power stays the same. Just curious - would Stryd pick it up?

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            Bulkan Moderator
            last edited by 13 Feb 2023, 18:04

            In my experience wind added more noise and inconsistency during runnings when is a wind from one side… I’m not a huge fan of wind stride pod for that reason and the valued added is not so important.

            Yes wind exists and it is there but I don’t find it useful.

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              Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by 13 Feb 2023, 20:38

              I think that we need new sensor for wind.

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                suzzlo Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by 15 Feb 2023, 05:31

                @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Wrist Running Power:

                Just curious - would Stryd pick it up?

                https://blog.stryd.com/2019/06/27/announcing-the-new-stryd/

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                  Łukasz Szmigiel @suzzlo
                  last edited by 15 Feb 2023, 15:42

                  @suzzlo interesting, do you have any insights how it compares to wrist based power?

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                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                    last edited by Brad_Olwin 15 Feb 2023, 20:51

                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Wrist Running Power:

                    @suzzlo interesting, do you have any insights how it compares to wrist based power?

                    I have done a lot of testing with 9PeakPro with the Stryd Pod (generation prior to wind). They are very similar. The major differences I saw were on very hard VO2 Max intervals the Stryd had higher max power and slightly higher avg power. Not enough to change the Critical Power calculations. Wrist-based power is much more convenient and always there. I did not like having to deal with the pod all the time.

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                      zhang965 @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by 15 Feb 2023, 21:02

                      Brad_Olwin said in Wrist Running Power:

                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Wrist Running Power:

                      @suzzlo interesting, do you have any insights how it compares to wrist based power?

                      I have done a lot of testing with 9Peak and 9PeakPro with the Stryd Pod (generation prior to wind). They are very similar. The major differences I saw were on very hard VO2 Max intervals the Stryd had higher max power and slightly higher avg power. Not enough to change the Critical Power calculations. Wrist-based power is much more convenient and always there. I did not like having to deal with the pod all the time.

                      WOW, s9peak has wrist power. I see I see.

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                        herlas Silver Members
                        last edited by herlas 15 Feb 2023, 21:04

                        Yesterday had a very windy first part of my easy run, this was well captured by my Stryd pod, as you can see 6% of my total power output was added by wind resistance

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                        I’d say if you’re just getting started with running power and don’t have a Stryd pod, the wrist based power is a good start 😉

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
                          last edited by 15 Feb 2023, 21:10

                          @zhang965 Sorry about that, they look the same and I can forget which one I have on my wrist. Thanks for the correction. I fixed the post.

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