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    wakarimasen Silver Members
    last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 13:19

    I’m 32 apparently, and was 29 last week. Having been born in 1969, I’m starting to doubt the stats…

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      kamarasm Bronze Member
      last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 13:41

      Exactly on this week I started to thinking on the same.
      As I know fitness age calculation is based on VO2Max, I looked at a table, what is common for a guy aged like me.
      https://mk0runbuzzcomvbj42mg.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Bruce-Protocol-VO2-Max-Norms-for-Men-.png
      So, I got the consequences, if I have better VO2Max then average, I was younger then my real age. Simplified 😉

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        taziden Gold Members @wakarimasen
        last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 13:48

        If you need a watch to tell you your age, well…

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          isazi Moderator @kamarasm
          last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 13:49

          @kamarasm that’s exactly how it works, and Suunto licences this from Firstbeat. And yes, it’s for the general population, not athletes.

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            wakarimasen Silver Members @kamarasm
            last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 14:29

            @kamarasm Nice description!

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              wakarimasen Silver Members @taziden
              last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 14:30

              @taziden I’ve never acted my age, so it’s good to know my VO2 follows the same path 😊

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                Tomas5
                last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 15:10

                This kind of measurements are great in promotion materials, but thats all what it is good for 😉

                I hade for some time fitness age 20 than it jumped to 30 now it doesn’t show anything.

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                  Jacobus @Ketoohs
                  last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 15:25

                  @Ketoohs I am 56 and my fitness age is also 20, think Suunto joke to boost your confidence

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                    A Former User @Jacobus
                    last edited by 26 Mar 2023, 09:31

                    @Jacobus Other brands are doing the same. From running speed to VO2Max is (simplified) a lookup table. From VO2Max to average VO2Max for a particular age is also an easy lookup.

                    If you are born with a natural higher VO2Max than average, your “fitness age” will always be low.

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                      jthomi @Guest
                      last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 18:15

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                        jthomi
                        last edited by jthomi 12 Apr 2023, 18:16

                        Got my S9PP end of 2022 and after using it in Jan/Feb my Fitness age was around 26.

                        Now I had to pause for various reasons, just walking the dog, but no cycling or runs. Now starting all over again, my fitness age is at 47. Slowly approaching my actual age, but sure, I hope it drops again. Since I ride a whole lot more than I run, it would be nice if rides would be used for the calculation of fitness age, too. Or is that not possible?

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                          A Former User @jthomi
                          last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 18:42

                          @jthomi it possible to estimate that too. If you have a power meter, you can estimate VO2Max based on your power output… e.g. https://www.michael-konczer.com/en/training/calculators/calculate-vo2max

                          With the found VO2Max you can lookup your “fitness age” in a table like https://runninforsweets.com/vo2-max-chart/

                          If you don’t have a power meter on your bike, you can try to estimate your power output with http://bikecalculator.com/

                          It is really an estimation, but I guess this is more or less how Garmin does it. Suunto doesn’t (yet). The number you get will be even more inaccurate then for running… it is only an estimation.

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                            Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @Ketoohs
                            last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 20:32

                            @Ketoohs This thread has some good info regarding this https://forum.suunto.com/topic/8144/9-peak-fitness-age-increasing

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                              wakarimasen Silver Members
                              last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 20:45

                              @Panagiotis-Kritikakos said in Fitness age:

                              https://forum.suunto.com/topic/8144/9-peak-fitness-age-increasing

                              It seems that I’m 29 again 😊

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                                last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 01:11

                                @twekkel That was pretty cool, I used my running power to estimate VO2M and I think it gave a pretty good estimate.

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                                  trailcafe Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 11:36

                                  Some news from LifeQ

                                  https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/23/04/n31742809/lifeq-announces-bioage-groundbreaking-new-metric-of-physiological-state

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                                    DMytro @trailcafe
                                    last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 11:42

                                    @trailcafe all recent Suuntos feature lifeQ sensors, right?
                                    I wonder if it’ll make it to SA. Although, since VO2Max is taken into account, it’ll again be unusable for non-runners.

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                                      trailcafe Bronze Member @DMytro
                                      last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 14:05

                                      @DMytro I really do not know, which watches use LifeQ sensors. And honestly, I don’t look at such stats as fitness age, VO2Max or the like. There’s too much “guesswork” or “magic” behind it for me. I rather trust a few simpler formulas in WKO, as far as development/progress is concerned.

                                      For the calculation of VO2Max there are countless formulas, which one is THE right one? Therefore, I consider e.g. Power/HF, Distance/Power or Distance/HR over longer periods, to give only a small selection. It would be nice to see those graphs in SA, or at least a Power Duration Curve. And of course separate ones for running and cycling if you use power. Maybe we can see something like that anytime as Suunto already uses some metrics of TrainingPeaks?! Would be nice…

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                                        Spree Bronze Member @DMytro
                                        last edited by 14 Apr 2023, 06:21

                                        @DMytro 7, 9 Peak, 9 Peak Pro are lifeQ to my knowledge. Not the same iteration of the sensor in all watches though.

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                                          DMytro @Spree
                                          last edited by 14 Apr 2023, 06:41

                                          @Spree ok, I see. Then it would be interesting to see. I guess this metric is not provided by lifeQ for free. But in principle, this seems to be an alternative to Firstbeat’s fitness age.

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