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Spring - hiking - trekking - altitude

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    Piotr Grygiel
    last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 14:20

    Due to the need to set the altitude at the beginning, I suggest adding quick access to settings to the outdoor widget.

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      isazi Moderator @Piotr Grygiel
      last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 15:08

      @Piotr-Grygiel adding config to widgets is planned for what I know. But you do not really need to set altitude before an activity, Fusedalti calibrates altitude within the first 15 minutes, and then applies the correction back to the start.

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        Piotr Grygiel @isazi
        last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 06:35

        @isazi If you feel like standing still 15 minutes outside in an open area…

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          Likarnik Bronze Member @Piotr Grygiel
          last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 06:43

          @Piotr-Grygiel you can start activity and walk 🙂

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            Egika Platinum Member @Piotr Grygiel
            last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 06:47

            @Piotr-Grygiel just use the watch.
            The FusedAlti algorithm will start sampling GPS altitude data and align those with the barometric sensor input.
            Then as isazi said, after like 12-15mins, the GPS altitude information is usually good enough to adjust the altimeter.
            No need to wait for this - it’s working in the background during the activity and does its magic unnoticed 🙂

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              sartoric Moderator @Piotr Grygiel
              last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 07:47

              @Piotr-Grygiel
              you’re missing a detail in isazi reply

              and then applies the correction back to the start.

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                Piotr Grygiel @sartoric
                last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 08:12

                @sartoric In difficult terrain, forest it works poorly.

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                  sartoric Moderator @Piotr Grygiel
                  last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 10:06

                  @Piotr-Grygiel said in Spring - hiking - trekking - altitude:

                  @sartoric In difficult terrain, forest it works poorly.

                  what ?

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                    freeheeler @sartoric
                    last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 10:52

                    @sartoric
                    I also have a different observation and opinion, but I am not there, so I can not contradict 🙂

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                      el2thek Bronze Member @Piotr Grygiel
                      last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 16:24

                      @Piotr-Grygiel Do you have an example?

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Piotr Grygiel
                        last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 16:36

                        @Piotr-Grygiel I don’t find that to be the case. I never adjust the altitude on my watch. I let FusedAlti do its work.

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                          Piotr Grygiel @el2thek
                          last edited by 14 Apr 2023, 12:29

                          @el2thek The same place 204-238 m 😞

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                            el2thek Bronze Member @Piotr Grygiel
                            last edited by 14 Apr 2023, 12:45

                            @Piotr-Grygiel how is the gps? Would assume that is also somewhat off then.

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                              SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                              last edited by 14 Apr 2023, 20:36

                              Do you use the performance mode? AFAIK fused alti is not working in the endurance mode…

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                                deserthike20 Bronze Member
                                last edited by 15 Apr 2023, 00:05

                                It’s been mentioned in these before in these forums that manually calibrating the altimeter prior to starting an activity effectively inhibits Fused Alti for that activity. So you may inadvertently be affecting the accuracy by manually entering the starting altitude.

                                Personally, I never calibrate the altimeter no matter how far off it is and just let it do its magic during the first 15 or so minutes of the activity.

                                I’ve never read how long before an activity this applies……

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                                  freeheeler @deserthike20
                                  last edited by freeheeler 15 Apr 2023, 04:32

                                  @deserthike20
                                  it used to be 15min before activity afair but seems not to be valid anymore.
                                  I did a test recently with manual adjustment, then immediate activity start and fusedalti did it’s job anyway

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @deserthike20
                                    last edited by 15 Apr 2023, 04:59

                                    @deserthike20 yes. Calibrating the altimeter before the activity with a -+15m real difference can influence the fused alti not to kick in for the first time.

                                    What is said here is correct.

                                    However keep in mind that fused alti always will kick in either continually and if the difference is more than 15m then also instantly if it has not happened before.

                                    Also keep in mind that the reference altitude must be of the same format. MSL

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                                      deserthike20 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 15 Apr 2023, 18:56

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @freeheeler

                                      Thank you both for adding and clarifying how Fused Alti works.

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                                        Piotr Grygiel @deserthike20
                                        last edited by Piotr Grygiel 19 Apr 2023, 06:39

                                        An example of Fused Alti precision. Actual height from professional measurement on my wrist 218 m. In my S9PP it was 212 m.
                                        S9PP sets the altitude at this point from 199 to 228 m. My yard is flat.
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                                          Piotr Grygiel @Piotr Grygiel
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