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herlas

@seanvk power zones are one thing, TSS calculation doesn’t uses power zones at all, it’s relative to the % of FTP used during your workout and its length.

TP allows you to set FTP alone, and you can set whatever power zones schema you want.

@herlas said in Stryd:

TP allows you to set FTP alone, and you can set whatever power zones schema you want.

I think the problem people have is that for TSS to work properly in Suunto watches FTP has to be anchored in 4/5 zone boundary while Stryd, for example, puts it into 3/4. Hence, if you want your watch zones match your Stryd zones for training, your TSS and other analysis – like Coach stuff – will be off.

RightNow

Too confusing to me what was written. If I am using a TrainingPeaks plan. What is to be done to run excactly the plan with the power Ranges described in TrainingPeaks?
What issues are expected?
I can’t follow you

herlas

@NickK that’s exactly what I’ve described as my only issue on the Suunto side, until FTP can be set alone, meaning not dependant of power zones, people will have to do what either you do, adjusting Z4 to fall into your FTP value or what I do, adjusting TSS on Suunto workout every single time as it gets undercalculated. (I opt for the last as I find the power zones ring and power zone targets so useful on my Suunto watch )

herlas

@RightNow long history short, if your FTP isn’t matching the Suunto Z4 upper limit, the Suunto watch will underestimate your TSS for any given workout, TP will show you the correct TSS though.

As far as the workout execution, nothing changes you should be fine there

seanvk

@herlas said in Stryd:

@seanvk power zones are one thing, TSS calculation doesn’t uses power zones at all, it’s relative to the % of FTP used during your workout and its length.

TP allows you to set FTP alone, and you can set whatever power zones schema you want.

Yes, I do that. I set 80/20 zones and my FTP in TP and intervals.icu. I just don’t pay attention to SA due to their zone definition.

RightNow

Sorry that I have to ask again. What I understand is that I can use Stryd structured workouts described in TrainingPeaks and everything will be fine. The only thing is to do the offline sync.

Now the topic I don’t understand excactly. What I have to care about is to align the power setting on my new vertical watch. Right? Between zone 4 and 5 should be the FTP.
But still I have the feeling from your writing/posts before that still something will be wrong or not usable with those settings. Right or wrong?

@RightNow said in Stryd:

What I understand is that I can use Stryd structured workouts described in TrainingPeaks and everything will be fine. The only thing is to do the offline sync.

If you don’t care about advanced Stryd metrics like vertical oscillation or leg springiness or form factor no offline sync is required. The offline sync will only bring these to the workouts uploaded by Suunto.

What I have to care about is to align the power setting on my new vertical watch. Right? Between zone 4 and 5 should be the FTP.

If you don’t set your FTP in Zone 4/5 on the watch, TSS calculated by the Suunto app will be off, and so will be your Progress Report and some of the data in Training Zone in the app. You’d be able to fix that by manually changing TSS for your workouts based on TP values.

Neither TP, nor Stryd care about how your watch is setup specifically.

isazi

@NickK I can see at least power and ground contact time in the graph, so not just averages but all recorded values. Cannot say much for other aspects (I only did one test).

@isazi You mean in Suunto app workout analysis, after you used that much rumored about Stryd S+ app?

Yes, that’s how I imagine it would work based on what I’m seeing from Fat Burner that gives you not only the averages that go into split/workout summaries but also the actual time series.

isazi

@NickK yes in Suunto App

RightNow

Any timeline when the new STRYD Suunto plus app will be available? Soon? Later? Next year?

isazi

@RightNow whenever Suunto and Stryd believe it’s ready.

RightNow

@isazi Thats the answer I’ve expected but it was worth a try

isazi

@RightNow

EzioAuditore

@isazi you should be politician man

isazi

@Hristijan-Petreski I was.

taziden

@isazi said in Stryd:

@Hristijan-Petreski I was.

“then an expensive watch scandal happened.”

ChrisA

@taziden

atoponce

@isazi Which version is it? If it’s the Next Gen they released last year, would you be interested in selling it if you haven’t already?