Stryd
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@RightNow what?
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Hi Stryd users, can I just confirm the usage of a Suunto with and without the new Suunto+ Stryd app and what to pair my Stryd as.
My understanding is that if I use the Suunto+ Stryd app it will display some of the metrics in realtime, but I think I have read somewhere that you need to remove the connection to the Stryd to get it to pair from the app. Can anyone confirm?
If I did not want to use the Suunto+ app and just paired the Stryd to the watch I would still get power readings from the pod and would need to do the double sync method to get the gps watch track into PowerCenter with the full metrics? To which what do I pair as; power pod or foot pod?
Cheers!
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@FunkyLarma correct, you won’t be able to use the new S+ Stryd app if Stryd is enabled as footpod or power pod under the sensors option in the pre-run screen, no need to remove Stryd completely from the watch, just make sure you turn it off in sensors when you want to test the S+ app.
Check out my initial feedback on the S+ Stryd app.
https://forum.suunto.com/post/139268
For the other Qs, the new S+ is not a replacement of the offline sync, in fact, I’ve just discover from Stryd directly they’re not merging their data with Suunto when we use the new S+ app, the feature is not there, so basically you’ll have two workouts in power center, this is not good at all.
And you can pair it as power pod if you only want power data coming from Stryd, if you want power, distance, pace and cadence from the Stryd, pair it as footpod, heck, you can pair both ways and it’ll work.
I always use it as footpod (don’t forget to turn off auto calibration after pairing), I like having 0 issues when I run through underpass in my city, or GPS affected by very tall buildings ( city runner here
) etc etc.And when I’m doing power-based intervals I also enable it as power pod to get power avg lap reported on the lap screen instead of avg pace
Hope this helps.
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@herlas thank you for the reply, I did find your feedback review after I posted; just finding my feet in the forum.
It does kind of feel like a missed opportunity with this ‘integration’ at present. Not sure if this is the start of a deeper integration but the lack of recording all metrics and the syncing does not really feel like using the app has much benefit.
Personally, like you, I prefer the pace coming from Stryd as it does feel more responsive; at least on Garmin and Wahoo. Most of my workouts are power based but I’m not looking at Air Power or Form during a workout, post analysis yes but when you have your head down I just want to know if I’m hitting targets. Which sort of puts me in the ‘pair as a foot pod’ camp.Also did note your comment on Suunto Guides for Stryd workouts, which would be great. Currently I build most of mine in TrainingPeaks and so far have made the most of the Stryd plans or workouts. Fingers crossed for deeper integration.
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@FunkyLarma right, at least the thing finally came, now the big question is, can they have gone for a regular S+ app instead of a device type ? Stryd was already talking to our Suunto watches in a native way if you know what I mean
If displaying Stryd metrics and saving them to the workout is possible with a regular S+ app, that would be cleaner and more functional for everyone.
Any ideas on that? Thx
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@herlas very true. When I started running just over a year ago I really struggled, but as a cyclist, running with power was easy to understand; paces always confuse me as I have no idea what a 5k pace is
My biggest complaint with Stryd is not the platform or the device but more the company and customer support. It is not as easy to understand and my experiences of their forums or Facebook group can be quite aggressive. I really think they could benefit from a bit more in terms of documentation and user guides, not everyone is a science and tech savvy as they are.Had confirmation from DPD that my first Suuntu will be delivered this afternoon so hoping to test some settings over the coming days
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I’m much the same - I actually originally purchased a stryd to use as a footpad when the milestone pods stopped being supported. I run a lot of canal routes which in summer with the tree cover have some really bad spots for gps. According to the average gps trace I swim more than run and I run through people’s houses rather than round a gentle curve of the canal path!
However I did then start using power as another metric and have found it hugely useful so I use it for steady runs (easy, tempo & long) on more undulating terrain and also for most of my races. I’d use it more if TrainAsOne could generate power-based workouts but I’m too lazy to copy them and convert them when they sync to my watch so smoothly as pace-based workouts.
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@FunkyLarma Hey! how did it go with Suunto and Stryd? did you get what you where looking for?
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I recently had so much trouble with Stryd and accuracy that I ditched the pod. The service is so bad that they are blocking people in their forums. Changing shoes definitely will need a new calibration factor. And their you have the problem: No way to manually enter a calibration factor in the Suunto Ecosystem. Especially when changing shoes: no way. The only chance is to use the Stryd + App. Which has its own hiccups.
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@RightNow You can’t manually add a calibration factor but you can get the watch to calibrate from GPS. If you go to the stryd pairing settings you can select ‘calibrate from GPS’ then go for a run somewhere you know you will get a solid gps lock. I’ve never felt a need to calibrate my 2nd gen stryd so I’ve not tried it myself but the theory is sound. Just remember to untick the option afterwards if you regularly run where gps isn’t solid.
Although I use my stryd on every run I do note that my Race S is perfectly capable of providing a power value. My use of the stryd is for pace rather than power because it’s much more reactive and responsive than using GPS for pace. As such, calibration isn’t quite so important to me. I also run a lot along canals where there’s a lot of tree cover and even the best gps track can end up jumping from one side of the canal to the other which can throw pacing so a footpod is just more consistent. For races I generally download the GPX files and use snap to route navigation for more accurate distance and ETA.
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@far-blue That procedure does only work in case you are always wearing the same shoes. I need different calibration factors for every shoes. So annoying. Result: Ditched the stupid inaccurate and expensive pod. The power value from Suunto is good enough.
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@RightNow I am only using stryd on the treadmill, to give me a better approximation of the pace and distance. Stryd is usualy about 10-15s slower per km as the treadmill (gets better with higher speeds).
Suunto is extremely bad when it comes to treadmill speed. I can do an exact same run on the treadmill (lets say 5:00 per km) and if the last outside run was a faster run (4:30 per km) them the treadmill run will be around 4:40-4:45. If i do the last run before treadmill at slow speed (5:30 per km) the 5:00 run on the treadmill will be in the ballpark of 5:40.
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@Ketoohs That would be one use case. But a very expensive one. Inwill type in the distance from the treadmill. That’s it. Way more cheap
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@RightNow It is an expensive use case. But I bought it and don’t want to sell it for peanuts. So have to make the best of it.
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@RightNow It’s not very ‘helpful’ to badmouth something if it doesn’t work for you. I get it you’re frustrated at it, but using Stryd and their training program I was able to shave 1h from my PB Marathon time, so I am quite pleased with how it works and the insights you get.
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@EzioAuditore I think it is helpful to tell the people about my experience with the stryd pod and especially the company.
Btw: My main point was the missing calibration factor possibility, what makes it very complicated to use that pod anyway. That is a huge problem because you will always fail in that case when changing shoes. -
@RightNow Yes sure everyone one is entitled to expressing their concerns. I have only positive feedback for them since I too have contacted them couple of times and they were always helpful. I do not know though how can ‘distance calibration’ be affected by the shoes. The calibration is applied to it via the GPS (when using Stryd with Garmin or Apple at least). The shoes affect all other metrics but dont think that 1km is different if you run it with one or other pair. It will always be 1 km.
