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  • I Offline
    isazi Moderator @kamarasm
    last edited by 24 May 2023, 21:38

    @kamarasm I would try a factory reset, and contact support if that doesn’t fix it.

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    K 1 Reply Last reply 25 May 2023, 07:20 Reply Quote 1
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      Tieutieu Platinum Member @kamarasm
      last edited by Tieutieu 25 May 2023, 05:48

      @kamarasm said in Battery drain:

      @kamarasm oh, NO 😞
      10% just about 3 hours…

      Are you really sure you didn’t activated accidentally the back light ? It happened to my wife with her S9pp and she had a similar battery drain. As the main setting of backlight was to « low » she hadn’t really paid attention to it.

      Anyway, other settings can impact battery drain (notifications…).

      My settings :

      • back light to low
      • standby off
      • turn to raise to low
      • no notifications
      • h24 and sleep hr tracking on
      • spo2 mesurement off
      • personal sports modes with maps and best gps settings

      Battery drain metrics so far : less than 2% for 24h as watch and tracking
      I have made more than 17h of various exercices since first full charge last week when I received it on Tuesday.

      (It leads me to that question : since last week i am still at 48% and I have a long race Saturday (should take me around 13/14 hours). I don’t know yet if I recharge the vertical or not…it still predict me 28 hours of battery life with my trail mode.
      Would you play ??!)

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        kamarasm Bronze Member @isazi
        last edited by 25 May 2023, 07:20

        @isazi Sorry, but I’m an observer and really enjoy to playing with this kind of stuffs. 🙂
        So, I tried to understand what happened here. I got a theory, but need some testing.
        All the things started with I modified backlight settings you suggested in a post - to lowering the brightness. But I tried Low option for Raise to wake settings as well. When I realized that it did not worth to change, I sat it back to high. And the mysterious drain started that time.
        Last evening - when managed my kids to bath, I got off SV and saw that backlight stay active longer then before. I just tried and it was almost 1 min in every occasions, which is abnormal.
        Review all the settings and found that backlight was switched to on.
        Which is interesting:

        • how it was activated as I didn’t do it?
        • if it was active, backlight stay always on, not turned off after 1 min?
          So, I try to repeat the mentioned step above today, to see I can reproduce the issue or not.
          I’ll let you know
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          Tieutieu Platinum Member @kamarasm
          last edited by 25 May 2023, 07:43

          @kamarasm even if you have been to settings/general/backlight and set everything « right », there is still a « direct » option to set backlight on that comes over other settings when activated : you find it when you go down from main screen to the menu, just under « do not disturb » and « flashlight ».
          (That’s where my wife had accidentally switched backlight on and battery drain was then massive)

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            herlas Silver Members
            last edited by 25 May 2023, 13:40

            Just saw this on SA android

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              Jose Luis Silver Members @herlas
              last edited by 25 May 2023, 14:29

              @herlas thanks, I’m going to try

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                RightNow Bronze Member @Jose Luis
                last edited by 25 May 2023, 15:10

                Is this a bug? Or is this the thing you have to do always?

                F 1 Reply Last reply 25 May 2023, 15:15 Reply Quote 0
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                  freeheeler @RightNow
                  last edited by 25 May 2023, 15:15

                  @RightNow
                  I assume it is a default setting (don’t remember…) and it was frequently asked

                  living sideways

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                    RightNow Bronze Member @freeheeler
                    last edited by 25 May 2023, 15:18

                    @freeheeler Yes but I wouldn’t call it „unexpected“. Then it would be expected. Is it a bug or expected?

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                      runomatic Silver Members @freeheeler
                      last edited by runomatic 25 May 2023, 15:21

                      @freeheeler My new Vertical came with Standby = On, so that should be default.

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                        jjpaz Bronze Member @runomatic
                        last edited by 25 May 2023, 15:22

                        @runomatic Yes, that’s the current default conf.
                        It will be fixed in the new software, current default mode will be Backlight Off.

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                          valdis830
                          last edited by 25 May 2023, 15:44

                          Last full charge 20th + (something of sun)
                          Activity: 4:33h without SuuntoPlus; best GPS + route navigation
                          Actually: 75% of juice left.

                          My current configuration:

                          WATCH MODE
                          *brightness- medium
                          *standby- off
                          *rise to wake- hight

                          *tones- all off
                          *vibration- on
                          *notifications- off

                          *activity 24/7- on
                          *sleep tracking- on
                          *auto no disturb- 23:00-8:00

                          ACTIVITY
                          *GPS Accuracy- best
                          *touch- enabled

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                            freeheeler @RightNow
                            last edited by 25 May 2023, 15:44

                            @RightNow
                            in this case I would call it expected.
                            settings that are not according to the taste of users are not bugs IMO 😉
                            when standby turns off after some time but it shouldn’t, this would be a bug.

                            mine is turned off since day one with raise to wake low and still I see relatively high battery consumption. I keep observing ✊

                            living sideways

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                              freeheeler @valdis830
                              last edited by freeheeler 25 May 2023, 15:53

                              @valdis830
                              it’s difficult to evaluate battery consumption with mixed usage (activity and watch mode with different settings).
                              I’ve fully charged on 19th morning when loading new maps and used the watch in activity for 7h with gnss performance and always 2 S+, sometimes with verity sense… I’m at 46% now with quite some sun every now and then.

                              but it doesn’t tell us anything, does it?

                              the most serious way to get a feeling for it is checking the battery estimation before a very long activity and go to start screen after this activity again and check if it estimates reasonably with delta of the previous activity duration.

                              edit: e.g. today’s lunch run of 80min showed estimation 28h before and 27h after the run. it was too short for a valid number, but it didn’t “drain” to e.g. 23h or something like that

                              living sideways

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                                valdis830 @freeheeler
                                last edited by 25 May 2023, 16:22

                                @freeheeler
                                I heard that the solution for the high consumption of having 2 S+ working is on the way.
                                On the other hand, I think that the most reasonable way to evaluate the real duration of the battery in a mixed cycle is to leave it around 10% to recharge it the next time. The percentage that is actually displayed many times is not real. For example. Since last night I have 75% and it is still there 24 hours later. Zero solar recharge. Hope this is fine tuned in future updates.

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                                  surfboomerang @RightNow
                                  last edited by 25 May 2023, 20:51

                                  @RightNow I think it is unexpected in this case. Otherwise I see no need for Suunto to mention this explicitly in a SA notification.
                                  If not, they can send notifications for 24/7 HR and GPS performance mode as well because those are also battery drainers.

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                                  OnePlus Nord 4

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                                    freeheeler @surfboomerang
                                    last edited by 25 May 2023, 21:06

                                    @surfboomerang
                                    unexpected that backlight consumes more battery than expected? or expected that backlight consumes more battery but customers prefer to have default setting to safe battery and no backlight?

                                    living sideways

                                    S 1 Reply Last reply 25 May 2023, 21:40 Reply Quote 1
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                                      surfboomerang @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 25 May 2023, 21:40

                                      @freeheeler To me it sounds that the standby light consumes more battery than Suunto intended. Although it could be that the battery claims were made with the standby light off and they send out the notification because it is on by default right now.

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                                      OnePlus Nord 4

                                      B 1 Reply Last reply 25 May 2023, 22:26 Reply Quote 2
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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @surfboomerang
                                        last edited by Brad_Olwin 25 May 2023, 22:26

                                        @surfboomerang said in Battery drain:

                                        @freeheeler To me it sounds that the standby light consumes more battery than Suunto intended. Although it could be that the battery claims were made with the standby light off and they send out the notification because it is on by default right now.

                                        In our testing we had firmware updates where Standby = on by default and we experienced higher than expected battery drain. The intent is to have Standby = off by default. Turning Standby = on will deplete the battery faster than the published specifications.

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                          last edited by 26 May 2023, 08:12

                                          Please keep in mind that battery needs a full circle 0-100 to calibrate. Thus you might see faster drops near 50-100 and slower at lower percentages.

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