S9 is the top model

aldnet · 11 Jul 2018, 07:13

@egika that updates will come when they consider it’s ready for beta level, they are in alpha stage, so, everything will come

suzzlo · 11 Jul 2018, 07:13

@egika I think there are 3 paths:

Alpha => just some internal and very specific people
Beta => just beta testers (We!)
Public => Official release

Best regards

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 11 Jul 2018, 07:31

@egika because apart from you here the beta is open to the whole world.

For example since July 5 Facebook broke something at it’s API and latest sharing is broken. Yes I am in alpha as internal and I don’t care. But as soon as this would be pushed to beta the support request for example would peak.

If it was only you guys here in beta that would not be a problem.

One more thing relalted to the stalled updates, there are things that can go bad.

Take a look please, a good look here. See how many users even went berserk sometimes when the update broke pairing etc. You did reply to them as: hey relax it’s beta.

So the point is quality control over what reaches even the beta. We cannot push something that will create a disastrer.

Recent example was the movescount history sync. Some users got the app crashing and other side effects.

For those here knowing the forum was fixed as I also had contact with you and the devs. Others still email support and return their watches.

Please bare with this procedure. Sometimes the updates will be fast and weekly or biweekly and sometimes it will take a while.

The point here is that no development has not stopped and there are good things to come asap.

Egika · 11 Jul 2018, 09:13

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok, thank you for the explanation.

SlaSh · 7 Nov 2018, 10:59

@suzzlo beta/live apps now are at the same level, when beta should be way ahead.

Mff73 · 11 Jul 2018, 11:05

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos

Thanks for news (in general ;)).
There had been a debate about a smaller group of beta testers, maybe can be called alpha tester in this case (as beta is widely public).
Is there à way to become alpha tester ?
Apart great debate you have all here, nothing to really test since ages

Enjoy summer guys !

Luís Pinto · 11 Jul 2018, 12:02

@mff73 On September more things are coming. For now enjoy your actual machines and MovWeb that work like charm.

My considerations about Suunto are the same. Machines have premium quality and with a design AAA. Software can be much better. With the right top priorities choosen can reach other customers.

Good vacations for someone of you, and good work for others. Is life.

suzzlo · 11 Jul 2018, 12:02

@slash said in S9 is the top model:

@suzzlo beta/live apps now are at the same level, when beta should be way ahead.

sure? I think they NOW are in the same point 3.37.1 Android and 1.2.0 iOS, but, sure next version with these tons of new features are going to be only in beta and not in the public

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in [S9 is the top model]:

For example since July 5 Facebook broke something at it’s API and latest sharing is broken.

Facebook sharing?

aldnet · 11 Jul 2018, 12:28

@suzzlo @slash is telling that, usually, in a beta version features are more advanced than in a public version, but now both versions are coincident.

I understand with the release of Suunto 9 they are forced to release 1.2.0 iOS (and it’s equivalent of Android) to support it.

We are expecting new build as water in a desert, we have necessity of new build

aldnet · 11 Jul 2018, 12:29

By the way, going back to Suunto 9, very happy with battery, since my full battery charge on Sunday, today it’s in 53% of battery

HawkEye6 · 11 Jul 2018, 18:35

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos well said, live in the Nordics and it’s great. Dev needs rest as well!!

A Former User · 25 Jul 2018, 10:26

Received my S9 yesterday.
First impressions are that it is an enhanced model over SSU.
Better form factor (lighter), very pretty (even though I think SS Baro is very pretty too), and of course WHR. It also, feels somewhat faster in menu navigation.
Did I need to upgrade from SSU? Not really. Every function is the same and no real reason for owning something with a 100 hours of potential battery but being unable to run due to injury.
But most people buy stuff for the satisfaction of having the newest and best version.
I am eagerly awaiting the new SA version. It’s been long since the last one.
Will the S9 follow the Spartan firmware cycle as well? Software trumps hardware every time!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 25 Jul 2018, 10:55

@yannis-belouris yes the spartans will follow

suzzlo · 25 Jul 2018, 11:58

@yannis-belouris said in S9 is the top model:

I am eagerly awaiting the new SA version. It’s been long since the last one

Me too… tired of need to sync 2 times, SA (Bluetooth) and then MC (via cable + Macbook)… yes, I know, you will say me that I can use MC mobile phone, but sync with this app is a nightmare…

A Former User · 25 Jul 2018, 18:20

Also, the connection with SA seems more stable. Previously on SSU I would frequently lose connection and had to juggle through disabling bluetooth, restarting the phone, force closing the app and so on.

JorgeFD · 1 Aug 2018, 06:07

I’m waiting for Suunto to let me buy a personalized S9! please please please

thank you @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos for all your support. Waiting for this big update!

Luís Pinto · 1 Aug 2018, 06:07

Fair review from dcrainmaker: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/07/suunto-9-multisport-gps-in-depth-review.html

I was worried about Sports Tracker and Movescount. And the lack of human ressources to accomplish so many demands.

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud · 1 Aug 2018, 06:11

@luís-pinto Yes, I think he has pointed out what “we” are concerned about.

Luís Pinto · 8 Jan 2018, 09:14

@Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud In regards to Movescount i stayed with sensation that plan is to discontinue and transfer features to ST. Is a error. ST is a alien world. Not Suunto.

“At present, Sports Tracker basically feels like a rehashed version of RunKeeper from half a decade ago. It lacks most of the sport-focused analytics found in Movescount. The good news here is that you can continue using Movescount, but the bad news is that most of the newer features you might want around 24×7 tracking (i.e. steps and sleep) aren’t in Movescount, or aren’t as detailed there.”

“Suunto says over time features will get ported over from Movescount to Sports Tracker, but I suspect we’re realistically talking 12-18 months or so here. After all, I’ve been watching this transition since last December, and I wouldn’t exactly call the progress lightning fast.”

Other thing is when dc says “Suunto’s in a tough spot in terms of competition these days, and they admit it themselves. When I met with them they were clear that they’re no longer trying to compete on feature counts with Garmin. It’s simply not going to win there, Suunto just doesn’t have the resources (namely, developers) to do so. Instead, Suunto is aiming to compete on making a device they believe is more durable and attuned to what endurance athletes want: Better battery life, better GPS and altimeter tracks, and solid reliability”, dcrainmaker.

This time it seemed to me that the DC was well to praise what is right and point the finger at what is wrong.

In fact i was told before. Suunto is being directed for a market niche.
Suunto don’t have to become a Garmin. They do things at other approach. But some things they have to bring. More 6/9 months to bring elementar things people will become less receptive to brand. Not even person is a endurance athlete.

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud · 1 Aug 2018, 07:10

@luís-pinto Agree, if they want to be directed to a market niche, I think it will be hard to make money to survive. Like it or not, but most users want features and if Suunto don`t want or cannot compete in this area they, at least, need to make sure that what they do they do better than their competitors.