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    • SlaShS Offline
      SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos even if I am above it 20m and far away 50m? Unbelievable 🙂

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        Ze Stuart Gold Members @SlaSh
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        @slash only one thing to do: find out which satellites were available to you at the time, and plot their course in relation to your course, and determine if any would have been broadcasting from the right spot for a reflection error.

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
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          @slash said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos even if I am above it 20m and far away 50m? Unbelievable 🙂

          What @Ze-Stuart said.

          I love these debates. Lets assume it like so:

          The water is a mirror and the satelite sees you from that mirror. The more far away you are the wider the angle thus where the sat is.

          something like so

          \___/

          God damn I am bad in this example.

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            SlaSh Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos personally never faced such before near the water 😉

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SlaSh
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              @slash said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos personally never faced such before 🙂

              I do GPS testing as you know and its the biggest problem. Usually referred to multipath problem

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                PErhaps this helps

                test

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                  Ze Stuart Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                  something like so

                  \___/

                  *satellite in space
                  \      .slash and his watch
                   \    /
                    \__/
                  big reflecting pond slash runs around
                  

                  You can tell it’s a busy day…

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                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @SlaSh
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                    @slash Since you don’t run:)… when walking my watch generally faces outward or laterally to the side, when running I hold my arms more upright and the watch face is generally pointed to the sky. Would be interesting to see if the track is worse when the watch and arm are closest to the water.

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Ze Stuart
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                      @ze-stuart said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                      something like so

                      \___/

                      *satellite in space
                      \      .slash and his watch
                       \    /
                        \__/
                      big reflecting pond slash runs around
                      

                      You can tell it’s a busy day…

                      dude you made my day ✌

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                      • sartoricS Offline
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                        Just to ease understanding this … reverse it. In fact it’s your device that see the satellite, not the opposite, and you see the reflected signals carrying data for the other side of the water

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                        • SlaShS Offline
                          SlaSh Platinum Member
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                          Anyway I think glonASS is making such 🙂 I will turn it off and this won’t happen again 🙂 Russians do not make reliable stuff 😉

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                            NicolasP @SlaSh
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                            @slash you should send me your Baro for testing 😉 look what I get with my “little” Trainer (ok no Glonass I know):
                            0_1529564133568_Screenshot_20180621-074915_Suunto.jpg

                            0_1529564145765_Screenshot_20180621-074938_Suunto.jpg

                            0_1529564174804_Screenshot_20180621-075033_Suunto.jpg

                            My Trainer never let me down 😁

                            SST

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @NicolasP
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                              @nicolasp said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                              @slash you should send me your Baro for testing 😉 look what I get with my “little” Trainer (ok no Glonass I know):
                              0_1529564133568_Screenshot_20180621-074915_Suunto.jpg

                              0_1529564145765_Screenshot_20180621-074938_Suunto.jpg

                              0_1529564174804_Screenshot_20180621-075033_Suunto.jpg

                              My Trainer never let me down 😁

                              Trainer has one of the Best GPS atm in the market. Ok not better than A3P or V800 but I think its just under those

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                                SlaSh Platinum Member @NicolasP
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                                @nicolasp now walk that route instead of the running 😉

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                                  NicolasP @SlaSh
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                                  @slash I’ll do it and will let you know as interesting to compare the GPS accuracy running vs walking

                                  SST

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                                    Let’s say that satellite position is the main factor for that “mirror” effect

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                                      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Who need Glonass or Galileo when antenna is in right position? That is the reason for excelent results in Spartan Trainer and also Ambit3.

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
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                                        @luís-pinto said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Who need Glonass or Galileo when antenna is in right position? That is the reason for excelent results in Spartan Trainer and also Ambit3.

                                        Correct @Luís-Pinto

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                                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                                          @luís-pinto said in S9 Fusedtrack state-of-art:

                                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Who need Glonass or Galileo when antenna is in right position? That is the reason for excelent results in Spartan Trainer and also Ambit3.

                                          Correct @Luís-Pinto

                                          S9 antenna’s design is different to SSU?

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                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @JorgeFD
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                                            @jorgefd78 I think yes but do not really know the specs etc. From appearance yes

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