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    stromdiddily Gold Members
    last edited by stromdiddily 18 Aug 2023, 19:12

    I have recently been experiencing some longer than usual duration for my vertical to lock onto a GPS signal which has pretty much always resulted in a decent GPS drift (ie on my route just shows me running through houses).

    It’s to the point where I’m tying my shoes outside, warming up, checking the mail, etc waiting for my GPS to lock and then giving it an additional minute or two after it finally does. I’ve confirmed my AGPS is updating so not sure what else to do.

    Anyone else seeing similar results?

    Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

    User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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      zhang965 @stromdiddily
      last edited by 18 Aug 2023, 20:17

      @stromdiddily hello, do you mind if you can share some screenshots on your gps tracker

      Winners Wear Winners

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        Chris Kusmider
        last edited by 18 Aug 2023, 21:10

        was happening to me as well, cutting thru neighbourhoods and streets. Also noticed this always happens at the start of the run/walk and then is ok. Also noticed when I paused the walk and got a coffee, after resuming the walk it cut thru the street and then was ok. Wonder if there is a glitch in initially locking into satellites with the watch.

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          stromdiddily Gold Members @zhang965
          last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 15:38

          @zhang965 said in GPS Lock and Drift:

          @stromdiddily hello, do you mind if you can share some screenshots on your gps tracker

          Like this one?

          GPS was locked THEN I proceeded to tie my shoes and do my warm up before starting.

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          Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

          User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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            zhang965 @stromdiddily
            last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 16:35

            @stromdiddily said in GPS Lock and Drift:

            @zhang965 said in GPS Lock and Drift:

            @stromdiddily hello, do you mind if you can share some screenshots on your gps tracker

            Like this one?

            GPS was locked THEN I proceeded to tie my shoes and do my warm up before starting.

            086a9476-c4f6-415c-aec6-a4cdb6a79633-image.png

            It looks like a dick

            Winners Wear Winners

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              freeheeler @stromdiddily
              last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 17:21

              @stromdiddily
              did this happen once or did you notice this behaviour more often?

              living sideways

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                stromdiddily Gold Members @freeheeler
                last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 21:18

                @freeheeler said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                @stromdiddily
                did this happen once or did you notice this behaviour more often?

                This is the first time it’s done anything like this but like the title suggests I have issues basically every time I start a run w tracks being in line but offset

                Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                  stromdiddily Gold Members @zhang965
                  last edited by 21 Aug 2023, 21:18

                  @zhang965 said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                  @stromdiddily said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                  @zhang965 said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                  @stromdiddily hello, do you mind if you can share some screenshots on your gps tracker

                  Like this one?

                  GPS was locked THEN I proceeded to tie my shoes and do my warm up before starting.

                  086a9476-c4f6-415c-aec6-a4cdb6a79633-image.png

                  It looks like a dick

                  feel free to include it in your next product review

                  Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                  User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                    isazi Moderator @stromdiddily
                    last edited by 22 Aug 2023, 08:48

                    @stromdiddily no, didn’t happen to me, and it sounds strange that it just started to happen to you now. I guess you already tried with a reboot 🙂
                    If this becomes a constant let us know, with logs and everything. Sony is baking GPS firmwares often recently, and the Vertical will get an update with next firmware release.

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                      stromdiddily Gold Members @isazi
                      last edited by 22 Aug 2023, 13:34

                      @isazi said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                      @stromdiddily no, didn’t happen to me, and it sounds strange that it just started to happen to you now. I guess you already tried with a reboot 🙂
                      If this becomes a constant let us know, with logs and everything. Sony is baking GPS firmwares often recently, and the Vertical will get an update with next firmware release.

                      Thank you sir. Will shoot you a DM if it doesn’t sort itself out.

                      Today on the same route, I had absolutely perfect tracks so hopefully just a one off!

                      Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                      User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                        stromdiddily Gold Members @isazi
                        last edited by 22 Oct 2023, 17:15

                        @isazi said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                        @stromdiddily no, didn’t happen to me, and it sounds strange that it just started to happen to you now. I guess you already tried with a reboot 🙂
                        If this becomes a constant let us know, with logs and everything. Sony is baking GPS firmwares often recently, and the Vertical will get an update with next firmware release.

                        This is quite predictable now whenever I run in a new area. First run in Mexico on vacation had pretty significant offset and a long-ish time to acquire signal. First run back home, same deal.

                        Both times I made sure to sync with the app to get updated AGPS and wait a good 30 seconds or so after GPS signal acquisition to start the activity.

                        I am willing to bet good money that my run tomorrow from the same location will lock before I can tie my shoes and have no such offset.

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                        Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                        User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                          surfboomerang @stromdiddily
                          last edited by 22 Oct 2023, 19:17

                          @stromdiddily for what it is worth: I had a huge GPS drift last two days here in the neighborhood. I have never seen this in years. Rebooted the watch and hopefully it will be gone next activity.

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                            isazi Moderator
                            last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 06:02

                            No issues for me in the past few days, but next update will also have GPS firmware updates.

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                            Blog: isazi's home

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                              surfboomerang @isazi
                              last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 06:10

                              @isazi The contours were good, but the whole track was displaced.

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                                isazi Moderator @surfboomerang
                                last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 06:12

                                @surfboomerang I have only seen that happen with wrong (not as not updated, but wrong) AGPS data.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  surfboomerang @isazi
                                  last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 06:14

                                  @isazi only time I have seen this was indeed with the huge Sony AGPS issue 1-2 years ago. Hopefully the reboot worked for the next activity

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                                    e6321 Bronze Member
                                    last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 07:18

                                    Run yesterday had a good 20m offset as youve reported, for first 10 mins.

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                                      stromdiddily Gold Members @isazi
                                      last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 13:56

                                      @isazi said in GPS Lock and Drift:

                                      No issues for me in the past few days, but next update will also have GPS firmware updates.

                                      Fingers crossed!

                                      Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                                      User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @stromdiddily
                                        last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 21:51

                                        @stromdiddily This is odd, I travel a reasonable amount and this does not happen to me. For example on my last race I had not used the Vertical in quite some time. I charged it for the race and started off. The last time I used the Vertical was a week before near my home. Here is the beginning of the Race located 800km away from home. I have not seen this when traveling.
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                                          stromdiddily Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 23 Oct 2023, 21:57

                                          @Brad_Olwin

                                          That’s what has me thinking there might be something up with mine. Folks are raving about the accuracy and if this was a common occurrence, someone else would have brought it up (5k, dc, etc)

                                          Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                                          User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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