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SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?

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    EzioAuditore Gold Members @zhang965
    last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 11:31

    @zhang965 I don’t care about added values. Its a forum after all not a scientific publishing platform 🙂

    Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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      zhang965 @EzioAuditore
      last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 11:49

      @Hristijan-Petreski said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

      @zhang965 I don’t care about added values. Its a forum after all not a scientific publishing platform 🙂

      It’s why you are not Suunto’s target audience.

      Winners Wear Winners

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        altcmd Silver Members @zhang965
        last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 13:01

        @zhang965 is this your idea of entertainment? thought you found greener pastured on Garmin - how is the Garmin forum?

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @EzioAuditore
          last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 18:06

          @Hristijan-Petreski Interesting as my AWUltra is often less distance than the Vertical and I think (I cannot be fully certain, maybe I should test the loop I have used a wheel to measure distance) the Ultra is measuring short.

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            zhang965 @altcmd
            last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 18:58

            @altcmd said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

            @zhang965 is this your idea of entertainment? thought you found greener pastured on Garmin - how is the Garmin forum?

            Garmin’s forum is boring, less entertainment then Suunto community forum.

            Winners Wear Winners

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              taziden Gold Members @zhang965
              last edited by 25 Sept 2023, 20:46

              @zhang965 said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

              Garmin’s forum is boring, less entertainment then Suunto community forum.

              So you’ve already been banned over there, aren’t you luv.

              S9PP

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                leafs93 Bronze Member @Andrew_
                last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 00:11

                @Andrewx01 I faced the exact same issue. I have a Garmin 965, COROS apex 2 pro, Apple Watch 8 and I do wear my vertical together with the rest of my watches just to test out the distances. The distance on my Vertical will invariably be clocked at longer distance , ie for a 10km run , it will be 200m longer for my vertical compared to Garmin 965 and COROS apex 2 pro.

                When I use software to zoom in to the tracks, I can then understand where the extra distance came from as vertical tracks are more often zig Zac compared to the rest and I figured that must have been the reason. However, it seems vertical has the most accurate distance count by the experts. So I guess it should be.

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                  zhang965 @leafs93
                  last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 05:15

                  @leafs93 said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

                  @Andrewx01 I faced the exact same issue. I have a Garmin 965, COROS apex 2 pro, Apple Watch 8 and I do wear my vertical together with the rest of my watches just to test out the distances. The distance on my Vertical will invariably be clocked at longer distance , ie for a 10km run , it will be 200m longer for my vertical compared to Garmin 965 and COROS apex 2 pro.

                  When I use software to zoom in to the tracks, I can then understand where the extra distance came from as vertical tracks are more often zig Zac compared to the rest and I figured that must have been the reason. However, it seems vertical has the most accurate distance count by the experts. So I guess it should be.

                  My vertical counts less distance when I run a little bit fast,; if I walk, it gives almost the same distance as epix2pro.

                  I saw Suunto’s tester was running at 16mins/km to proof the good gps tracker, sadly I cannot keep running in such a pace.

                  Have you tried run slower to see your vertical gps performance?

                  Winners Wear Winners

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                    Mouse Cruiser Bronze Member @Andrew_
                    last edited by Mouse Cruiser 26 Sept 2023, 05:17

                    @Andrewx01 IMHO the matter is quite simple. For example, if you take a perfectly flat road and measure a distance of 1 mile, a watch that measures the GPS location every second will make a tiny error in each measurement. If you run a mile in 5 minutes, that’s at least 300 locations and 300 small misses. The algorithm (and each watch manufacturer has different algoritm) compensates these small errors, of course, but in the end there is still a deviation from the measurement in a straight line and the calculation of the path after 300 locations. In your case the error is around 3 %, which could be smaller, but it could also be larger😕

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                      EzioAuditore Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 09:07

                      @Brad_Olwin Yes usually my AW gives me less distance too from cold start (their not so clever implementation to start the activity within 3 sec might be the case. So what I usually do is start an activity stop it after 5-10 sec - delete it and start again so the GPS lock should be much better).

                      Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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                        leafs93 Bronze Member @zhang965
                        last edited by 26 Sept 2023, 09:53

                        @zhang965 walking will definitely get more distance as the gps track will not be smooth and is more zig Zac.

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