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What do you expect from the next update?

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    jsuarez Bronze Member
    last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 09:44

    I hope they don’t include regressions, as happened with the last one and sleep tracking…

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      cosme.costa @jsuarez
      last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 10:07

      @jsuarez What do you mean with regressions?

      As far as I know sleep tracking is a bug, in which they are working on and a solution will come soon.

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        Stoke80 @cosme.costa
        last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 10:30

        @cosme-costa said in What do you expect from the next update?:

        @Tieutieu From what I have read in the Spanish forum, this will come and soon.

        From what I have read and deduced there are several nice updates to come in structured workouts, multiple sensors, navigation and swimming. They didn’t provide or leak any dates.

        Which forum is that, if I may ask?

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          cosme.costa @Stoke80
          last edited by cosme.costa 21 Jan 2025, 10:59

          @Stoke80 Suunto’s Telegram forum for the Spanish community, it is moderated by people working at Suunto.

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            SnowSailor
            last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 11:51

            Automatically update altitude based on GPS data and don’t rely on the barometer and the user having to do the update. Not rocket science to implement is it.

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              SnowSailor
              last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 11:55

              Better support for dinghy sailing. At the moment you have to use the basic app then the My sailing App and stop the thing via the basic app. It’s all very awkward and clumsy.

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                Stoke80 @cosme.costa
                last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 11:55

                @cosme-costa Thank you. Unfortunately I am not on Telegram

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                  Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 12:35

                  What do I expect? The usual: Better testing that leads to fewer bugs and elimination of bugs and inconsistencies mentioned in the forum or elsewhere by the users.

                  S9PP 2.40.44

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                    maszop Bronze Member @SnowSailor
                    last edited by maszop 21 Jan 2025, 12:49

                    @SnowSailor Normal manufacturers use a barometric altimeter, which is much more accurate than GPS altitude data (which is often useless).

                    If Suunto has to improve anything, it’s the algorithm to reduce the effect of wind on the total elevation gain. This is doable because the other company (G) can handle it better.

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                      isazi Moderator @SnowSailor
                      last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 12:50

                      @SnowSailor how is that different from FusedAlti?

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                        Inge Nallsson @maszop
                        last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 13:50

                        @maszop said in What do you expect from the next update?:

                        If Suunto has to improve anything, it’s the algorithm to reduce the effect of wind on the total elevation gain. This is doable because the other company (G) can handle it better.

                        The last time I ran in a storm I chose to do it in a wood to escape the majority of the winds. Still, the Garmin Forerunner 955 added about 100 metres extra to the Ascent/Descent registered (on a well-known path). The baro sensor holes on a FR955 is located at 6 a clock, under the watch armband, and therefore facing Up/Forwards with a normal running style. Not that smart… Coros Pace 2 holes are at 12 a clock (Down/Forwards) which is better. The Suunto Race S sports the holes at 9 a clock, ie Backwards when running with it on the left wrist. I’ve yet to experience stormy winds on my backside, but otherwise the registered Asc/Desc of this Race S has been excellent - even when running into heavy winds.

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                          cosme.costa @SnowSailor
                          last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 13:57

                          @SnowSailor I think that this is what Suunto does since Ambit3 times, if not before. You do not need to calibrate anything if you do a GPS activity, the first 10 minutes FusedAlti calibrates the baro with the GPS readings.

                          In my opinion, Suunto is pretty solid when we talk about altitude and ascent in its baro devices.

                          @maszop said in What do you expect from the next update?:

                          If Suunto has to improve anything, it’s the algorithm to reduce the effect of wind on the total elevation gain. This is doable because the other company (G) can handle it better.

                          I never had such issues with my SV in any of my activities with strong wind, but I have read that few people have had problems with strong winds, so I hope they can improve this.

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                            maszop Bronze Member @cosme.costa
                            last edited by maszop 21 Jan 2025, 15:13

                            @cosme-costa I always have that problem (9PP and two Verticals). And I’m talking about climbing relatively steep slopes (so the speed is definitely different than running). The error is around 50-100%. The graph looks like an ECG and hence such absurdly overstated elevation gains.

                            The problem with Suunto is that people have been writing about it for several years, and there is always an answer that the problem does not exist.

                            Here is a more detailed explanation of the problem (you can already see it in the first graphic):
                            https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/tutorials/elevation_gain.html

                            which is theoretically easy to fix (filtering excess measurements).

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                              Elipsus Silver Members @maszop
                              last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 15:30

                              @maszop Very interresting stuff to read, really something Suunto should look into

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                                maszop Bronze Member @Elipsus
                                last edited by 21 Jan 2025, 16:03

                                @Elipsus Here is the solution, but a similar mechanism should be used for elevation gains:

                                https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/tutorials/track_filters.html

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                                  Tieutieu Platinum Member @cosme.costa
                                  last edited by Tieutieu 21 Jan 2025, 16:07

                                  @cosme-costa Great news !! Thanks for sharing. We just have to wait the time needed so ! 😛

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                                    A Former User @cosme.costa
                                    last edited by 22 Jan 2025, 08:26

                                    @cosme-costa said in What do you expect from the next update?:

                                    multiple sensors

                                    Glad to read it’s on its way, it’s one of the major feature I’m waiting for before switching

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                                      isazi Moderator @Guest
                                      last edited by 22 Jan 2025, 08:28

                                      @placebo original rumors were that this was coming in 2024, hopefully we’ll have it in 2025. I also heard rumors about better swimming functionalities, but have not seen anything yet.

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                                        Maryn Silver Members @isazi
                                        last edited by 22 Jan 2025, 09:13

                                        @isazi any news about custom triathlon mode ? 🙂

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                                          jsuarez Bronze Member @cosme.costa
                                          last edited by jsuarez 22 Jan 2025, 09:27

                                          @cosme-costa To me a regression is when something was working and a new version breaks that functionality, especially if it affects a wide array of cases. So the sleep tracking breakage is one regression to me, not a new “feature”.

                                          To me a bug would be if it started tracking sleep erroneously because of other changes to the code, but not when it doesn’t work at all.

                                          It’s quite strange that this problem slipped through beta testing, but hey, sh%t can happen 😅

                                          However, I believe Suunto should have released a quick-fix just to address this one as soon as it was addressed.

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