Reviews

[Tieutieu]

@duffman19 said in Reviews:

Here it is - https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/11/suunto-race-amoled-in-depth-review.html

I don’t really get why he says that the SR is “much better” than the SV, pointing news features that will arrive (most of them) also on SV.
Except the amoled and rotative crown, there is not much differences.

[Dušan Ković]

@duffman19 “update on Monday”

[v.sacre]

@Tieutieu Based on DC table about features contained for both models, Vertical won’t have:

• running estimate and HR run threshold
• sleep stages and naps

But I really don’t know on what assumption DC made this table…

[Tieutieu]

@v-sacre said in Reviews:

@Tieutieu Based on DC table about features contained for both models, Vertical won’t have:

• running estimate and HR run threshold
• sleep stages and naps

But I really don’t know on what assumption DC made this table…

Except a “marketing” decision, I also don’t know what hardware limitation would avoid to have this on the SV.

One thing I noticed is that the possibility to have - not yet obviously - heatmaps on SR. On that point I would understand that screen resolution of the SV could limit it.

[duffman19]

@Tieutieu said in Reviews:

I don’t really get why he says that the SR is “much better” than the SV

I think Ray really likes his AMOLED screens, so the Race wins on that alone. I’m still a fan of the MIP because I find light-emitting watch screens distracting when I’m not using them for sport.

[Patrick Löffler 0]

Any ideas what else we get, besides improvements in the lag, with Monday’s firmware update?

[taziden]

@Patrick-Löffler-0 said in Reviews:

Any ideas what else we get, besides improvements in the lag, with Monday’s firmware update?

We get the end of “When will be the november update?!” and that’s priceless.
Of course, it will soon be replaced by “when is the next update” but for a few hours, we’ll have peace.

[Patrick Löffler 0]

@taziden said in Reviews:

@Patrick-Löffler-0 said in Reviews:

Any ideas what else we get, besides improvements in the lag, with Monday’s firmware update?

We get the end of “When will be the november update?!” and that’s priceless.
Of course, it will soon be replaced by “when is the next update” but for a few hours, we’ll have peace.

[seanvk]

@Patrick-Löffler-0 sounds like the zoom out limit will get increased from 500m to 2km.

[ChrisA]

I remember Polar (or was it Coros) once put Ray’s verdict about one of their newest watches on their homepage… Perhaps Suunto should do this too? “… This watch is awesome…!”

[pavel.samokha]

@taziden Noooo, immediately there will be “why still no payment (music, routing, coffee maker, etc.) in this update?”

[taziden]

@pavel-samokha said in Reviews:

@taziden Noooo, immediately there will be “why still no payment (music, routing, coffee maker, etc.) in this update?”

BTW, I’m still waiting on being able to play Doom or watch Finnish Eurovision contest songs on my S9PP thxbye

[pavel.samokha]

@taziden it’s only for Suunto Vertical, sorry https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C2QTDpdGCzg

[Egika]

@ChrisA said in Reviews:

I remember Polar (or was it Coros) once put Ray’s verdict about one of their newest watches on their homepage… Perhaps Suunto should do this too? “… This watch is awesome…!”

Will probably come as there is a similar quote already:

[A Former User]

@v-sacre I don’t really get why sleep stages won’t be on SV. I cannot imagine it’s a HW limitation.

[wmichi]

@tomasbartko “Some people choose to sleep without sleep stage tracking”. Explorers don’t need this fancy stuff in their tents on a mountain.

But you’re right, that’s probably just marketing to differentiate the products. On the other hand, I could be wrong. Who knows.

[A Former User]

@wmichi well yeah, my life will be still the same, with or without it. But I am a curious person, so I would like to understand why… It’s offtopic anyway so I am quiet now

[stromdiddily]

@wmichi said in Reviews:

@tomasbartko “Some people choose to sleep without sleep stage tracking”.

That is freaking hilarious

[Marius Jacobsen Eggerud]

@Patrick-Löffler-0 You can zoom out to 2km on the maps

[MKPotts]

@Tieutieu said in Reviews:

@duffman19 said in Reviews:

Here it is - https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/11/suunto-race-amoled-in-depth-review.html

I don’t really get why he says that the SR is “much better” than the SV, pointing news features that will arrive (most of them) also on SV.
Except the amoled and rotative crown, there is not much differences.

After reading the review, my view is that it’s likely because:

1. Ray appears to have a preference for Amoled screens and believes the market is going in that direction. Data on how the sales ratios of Epix/Fenix, 965/955 etc are evolving would support or refute that. I doubt Garmin would be pushing so heavily into Amoled if the unit sales data (and possibly margins) weren’t favourable.
2. The Vertical is 40-50% more expensive (at least in the UK it is). I know that’s almost certainly because of manufacturing location but I doubt most people will be willing to pay up to £$€250 more for made in Finland.
3. There may also be an element of this being the “best” (most featured) Suunto watch in terms of capability when first released, rather than what it evolves into further down the line.

Ray does clearly acknowledge that nearly all of the updates will come to the Vertical. Having been reading his articles for a few years, I’ve found him one of the best at covering new feature releases for existing watches, not just new watch launches.

If I was upgrading my S9PP, I’d most likely get the Vertical because battery life is a priority for me. But if I was no longer running 100hr+ ultramarathons, I’d probably get the Race.