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rTSS very similar between Aerobic and Tempo run

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    Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
    last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 15:22

    Hi all,

    I just recently move over to Suunto watches, and have a question around rTSS which is displayed on the app.

    I had a “easy” run (very out of shape + later part of the course was a uphill) yesterday. It was 36mins, 60% spent in zone 2 and 40% spent in low zone 3. App assigned it a rTSS of 32.
    Went today for a Tempo run on the same exact route. 29 mins, with 75% of time spent in zone 3 and 4. App assigned it a rTSS of 37.

    Aren’t the 2 extremely close despite the effort being substantially different? Is there maybe something I have not set up on the watch biasing the results?

    Thanks all in advance!!

    F 1 Reply Last reply 31 Oct 2023, 15:52 Reply Quote 0
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      fluca Silver Members @Pier Luigi Cingolani
      last edited by fluca 31 Oct 2023, 15:52

      @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani rTSS is function of timexintensity.
      Your second run is 7 mins shorter of the first. Which is ~20% less.
      If you had a second run 36mins long, you’d have had a 45 rTSS (37x1.20)
      To me based on your description everything It’s all right.

      P 1 Reply Last reply 31 Oct 2023, 16:03 Reply Quote 1
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        Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @fluca
        last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 16:03

        @fluca Ok thanks for your input there, makes sense. Maybe related question, I am familiar with HR zones, but not with Pace and Power ones. How should I be setting them? Cannot find any documentation on Suunto website on which values are expected there.

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          fluca Silver Members @Pier Luigi Cingolani
          last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 16:30

          @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani There is no rule that I can mention. I share with you the process that works well for me after 20 years in the sport:

          Set your HR right
          Set you Pace and power zone to match your HR zone
          My HR zone 2 upper limit is 144BPM ( aerobic threshold - set physiologically because it’s limit where I am running without ever opening my mouth)
          At 144 BPM I am running 242 Watts and 5:50 min/km
          242 watts became my Power zone 2 upper limit. 5:50min/km is my pace zone 2 upper limit.

          Zone 2 is the most important for me because I try to compete in long events and where I spent 90% of my training time.

          The other important one is upper limit of zone 4 which drives all your TSS metrics.
          To set this up (once a year, no more), I just use the Training Peaks test: Warm up then run 20-30 mins as fast as you can but ensure you complete the test. Last 20 mins avg HR/PWR/PACE are you respective Lactate Threshold to be set as zone 4 upper limit.

          Suunto has a specific SUUNTOPLUS app for that.

          Al the rest I set as a consequence spacing evenly between one zone and another.

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            Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @fluca
            last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 16:33

            @fluca faboulus answer, extremely clear! Thanks!

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              fluca Silver Members @Pier Luigi Cingolani
              last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 12:21

              @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani welcome !

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