HRV values last night DIFFERENT in watch and app

[Tieutieu]

@GiPFELKiND apps says 77 as « today », not « last night ». Isn’t it ?!
Is there a value for last night in SA when you go to sleep tracking section ? My guess is that it should be 82 ?!

[freeheeler]

@Tieutieu
very similar to what I wanted to write just now.
the app shows avg HRV per day, but the watch (and sleep sleep summary show avg HRV for the night. so it depends what you look at.
one value is for the entire sleep, but the other value from 0:00-23:59

[GiPFELKiND]

@Tieutieu yes but HRV measurement is not in daytime… Or? Think HRV measurement is in night and today night 77 ist if i think right yesterday evening to today morning! My watch says for this time 82

[Tieutieu]

@GiPFELKiND just look at @freeheeler answer. Can you look at the sleeping section of SA if you find your 82 value for last night ?

My understanding is that there are different values calculated and displayed either in the watch and\or in SA :
Total average hrv => in SA
Past 7 days average => in SA and in the watch
Last night (linked to the sleep hours set in the watch, i guess) => in SA sleep section and in the watch
Today (00h00 to 24h00) => in the watch, and probably in SA in the day diary

I’ll see that when my SV will get HRV when update will be released

[GiPFELKiND]

@Tieutieu

[Tieutieu]

@GiPFELKiND ok agreed that you should have 82 there. can you Check the day diary to see what value you have there ? (If it is displayed)
For now i would likely say that it seems to be a wrong display in sa.

[wmichi]

@GiPFELKiND No idea whats wrong here. Maybe the values are recalculated on the backend or in the app, but something went wrong during sync. So in SA you see a recalculated value and on the watch whatever it measures last night.

It seems that all of the new training and recovery data can have syncing issues.

@freeheeler Oura is definitely not a reference device. But for me Suunto and Oura show the same values. Night after night. And according to manual, HRV is only measures during. At least thats how I understand it. The value also never changes during the day.

[GiPFELKiND]

@Tieutieu In day diary in the watch or in the app? Where i should have a look?

[ChrisA]

@GiPFELKiND for me the values are correct:

and considering a whoop may not help. I wear one and it shows a HRV of 51 for today, which is very close to the 52 of the Race and also the monthly average is the same

[Tieutieu]

@GiPFELKiND Go to the calendar section where you have all the activities dots. Choose the day you want to look at : you access to all the activities of the day and when you scroll down, to details of sleep, ressources…and I guess, HRV also

[Kostas Zinelis]

@ChrisA Can you please check TSS and CTL ramp rate values too? In my case they are slightly different.

[wmichi]

@Kostas-Zinelis There is another threat about different training stats on the watch and app. This is a bug, that’s fixed in the upcoming firmware update (according to people testing this firmware).

[GiPFELKiND]

@Tieutieu its different here the 77 too not the 82 which my race shows

[ChrisA]

@GiPFELKiND your HRV doesn’t seem to be fully calibrated (I mean you haven’t worn it for 14 days) maybe that has something to do with it?

[wmichi]

@GiPFELKiND Today I have the same issue: value for last night’s HRV is different in watch and app.

[GiPFELKiND]

@wmichi oh oh oh SUUNTO whats the Problem here?

[Egika]

@GiPFELKiND are you syncing both of your watches?
If yes: In wich order?
In the app I get the data of the first watch synced in the morning.

[GiPFELKiND]

@Egika Only synch the Race, my Vertical is turned off in sleep mode until the next update will come i use the race only

[GiPFELKiND]

@Egika i dont use my Vertical since i have the Race are you on suunto App? Name to follow you?

[wmichi]

@GiPFELKiND As far as I know, all of this two way syncing from SA to the watch is new. We already know there are problems with training stats. It wouldn’t surprise me if this also applies to this single HRV value. Mine is off by 2ms, which is not a huge difference. But still it’s confusing for the user.