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    Danny poleg Silver Members
    last edited by 7 Nov 2023, 16:26

    I noticed that sleep monitoring does not define the hours of sleep, that’s why I ask.
    Does the watch know when I’m asleep regardless to " Do Not Disturb " setings
    I set DND from 22:00 to 05:00 so what happens with that day I slept in the afternoon because I was awake all night.
    Is the sleep analysis data for 24 hours or less?
    Thanks for the help

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      BrunoH Gold Members @Danny poleg
      last edited by 7 Nov 2023, 17:05

      @Danny-poleg DND schedule is not connected to sleep tracking. I don’t have Race but somewhere there should be settings for resting HR and/or minimum HR. Those tresholds and watch movement are being used to determine if you’re awake or asleep.

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        Danny poleg Silver Members @BrunoH
        last edited by 7 Nov 2023, 17:13

        @BrunoH Thanks - I’m just trying to understand the sleep analysis that the watch or app does

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          Sascha Domres Bronze Member
          last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 06:45

          I noticed that short interruptions (going to the toilet) end the sleep duration. Even if you continue to sleep for another 1.5 hours afterwards. the 1.5 hours are no longer counted… Maybe it was because I previously pressed the crown to see the time?

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            Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Sascha Domres
            last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 06:52

            @Sascha-Domres if so (haven’t tested) it is the opposite of what is written in the manual.

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              Egika Platinum Member @Sascha Domres
              last edited by Egika 11 Aug 2023, 07:34 8 Nov 2023, 07:33

              @Sascha-Domres for me this is working well.
              Went up this night to fix a drainage pipe around the house and went back to bed but could not fall asleep right away.
              this is what Race recorded:
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              Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Egika
                last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 12:17

                @Egika 7e8da1f7-3e52-419c-bfc7-f90eea595ac1-image.jpeg

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                  Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Egika
                  last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 12:19

                  @Egika 1.5 hours are no longer counted… Maybe it was because I previously pressed the crown to see the time? I got up at 7 a.m

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                    Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                    last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 12:40

                    @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud yes, I have to watch. Maybe the race would have continued counting if I hadn’t checked the time at 5:30 am. But that shouldn’t really be a problem… in any case, my sleeping times are completely wrong today…

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                      Egika Platinum Member @Sascha Domres
                      last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 13:48

                      @Sascha-Domres sleep tracking should be independent of checking the time.
                      I have had day where actually after checking the sleep stats at 5am, the watch went on registering me continue to sleep until 6.

                      Some guessing here:
                      Could it be that you synced the watch to the app between 5:30 and 7:00? So the data got written into the app?

                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                        Sascha Domres Bronze Member @Egika
                        last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 15:22

                        @Egika Thanks for the tip. That could be the case… my iPhone is also in the bedroom and wasn’t in airplane mode… but that would also mean that I initiated the synchronization by checking the time and going to the toilet…?!

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                          ChrisA Platinum Member @Sascha Domres
                          last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 15:27

                          @Sascha-Domres you may try to raise your resting HR setting a bit. I observed, that for me raising the HR value makes awake times be more precise (although from a certain point on, the fall asleep times change to the worse then)

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                            Sascha Domres Bronze Member @ChrisA
                            last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 17:40

                            @ChrisA thank you i keep it in mind…

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                              Egika Platinum Member
                              last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 08:04

                              I am just trying to get this “rest HR” to be confirmed from Suunto kind of officially.
                              Right now we are just suspecting that is has an influence on sleep tracking quality. Theoretically, it could well be HRV that does the sleep tracking trick (as you know earlier times Suunto T6 came out detecting your respiration rate calculated from HRV).
                              Anyway, currently waiting for confirmation and some insights from the devs…

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                              Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                wmichi @Egika
                                last edited by wmichi 11 Sept 2023, 08:32 9 Nov 2023, 08:29

                                @Egika Thanks for reaching out to Suunto. In the meantime I keep on speculating. I slept 13 nights with the Race, only in two nights my sleep wasn’t terrible fragmented (according to Oura). And also only in these two nights my HRV was within its normal range (according to Oura). And in those two nights the sleep tracking of the Race was spot on. In the other nights the Race reported way too much awake times. So HRV could play a role. Ok, this is not a very scientific test 😉

                                Maybe Suunto could publish a blog entry about their new sleep tracking? I think that would be beneficial for everyone and would end the guesswork.

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                                  ChrisA Platinum Member @Egika
                                  last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 13:23

                                  @Egika would be interesting! Thanks!

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @Egika
                                    last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 18:21

                                    Confirmed officially from Suunto:
                                    The Resting HR set in personal settings has no influence on Resource and Sleep tracking 😳

                                    We were hunting some Voodoo effect here 🤪

                                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                    Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @Egika
                                      last edited by Egika 11 Oct 2023, 18:23 10 Nov 2023, 18:23

                                      Confirmed officially from Suunto:
                                      The Resting HR set in personal settings has no influence on Resource and Sleep tracking 😳

                                      We were hunting some Voodoo effect here all the time 🤪

                                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                        ChrisA Platinum Member @Egika
                                        last edited by ChrisA 11 Oct 2023, 19:34 10 Nov 2023, 18:25

                                        @Egika I actually tested this and for me both were not working correctly if I set the resting HR in the watch to my lowest nightly HR. I will try it tonight with the Race ( have not tested it with the Race actually 😁)

                                        And many thanks for asking 🙏👍

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                                          A Former User @Egika
                                          last edited by A Former User 11 Oct 2023, 18:33 10 Nov 2023, 18:32

                                          @Egika said in Sleep tracking:

                                          The Resting HR set in personal settings has no influence on Resource and Sleep tracking

                                          Is it valid only for SR or also for SV S9PP etc? I ask this because I have the same problem as @ChrisA on my S9PP

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