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    A Former User
    last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 08:25

    Hello there,
    my Suunto Race reported nightly HRV only for the first night. Since then the value simply is missing on the watch and obviously in the App. Sleep tracking is on, HRV measuring is set to be on.
    Any thoughts on that?
    Everything else is fine, OHR works well for me in terms of HR and O2saturation.
    Happy run, tk

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      S.Pichi @Guest
      last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 11:03

      @Torsten-Kessler Do you trun on HR daily ?

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        A Former User @S.Pichi
        last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 11:07

        @S-Pichi
        almost daily I record one activity with oHR, sometimes run, sometimes cycling; 24/7 recording of HR is set to on

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
          last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 19:35

          @Torsten-Kessler How is it missing? It will take 14 days to get a baseline.
          Did you record sleep last night?
          What is showing in the HRV Widget?

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            A Former User @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 05:28

            @Brad_Olwin hi Brad, sleep Tracking is on. First Night the Widget reported 52 ms for for the previous Night, This can be Seen in the Night Report in the App. The following 4nights, with sleep Tracking on, the Widget Reports — (two dashes) as last Nights value…

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              A Former User @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 07:18

              @Brad_Olwin image1.jpeg image0.jpeg

              Screenshots of the Widget, Tuesday 52ms, since then no reading of HRV despite sleep tracking on, resting heart rate and O2 Saturation during the night all recorded and reported…

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                Egika Platinum Member @Guest
                last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 09:34

                @Torsten-Kessler this is strange.
                Have you tried resetting the watch and see if this helps?

                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                Run Lime

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                  A Former User @Egika
                  last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 11:04

                  @Egika You mean soft reset, such as upper button 12s? Yes, I did that, no change in behaviour.

                  To my understanding HRV measurements via OHR is more demanding than simply heart rate. Can it be, that the quality of readings is just not reliable enough for the software algorithm to report it as result?

                  Like when you get the error message: " O2 Saturation could not be detected, please try again"…

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                    Egika Platinum Member @Guest
                    last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 11:40

                    @Torsten-Kessler very well possible… On the other hand sleeping time is the best time to measure anything HR related with the optical sensor.
                    Does your arm or watch wearing style have anything unusual to them that could influence the measurement?

                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                    Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                    Run Lime

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                      A Former User @Egika
                      last edited by 10 Nov 2023, 12:25

                      @Egika Not anything I can think of, I tried both sides left and right, normal position 2cm above the wrist, nothing else on the wrist, no tatoos, eg. HR and O2sat reads just fine, I got good HRV readings in the same position with Garmin FRs, maybe I do a hard reset and start from scratch…

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                        last edited by 11 Nov 2023, 12:53

                        @Torsten-Kessler Just to double check the HRV button is toggled on and you have set Sleep times. I know you stated this in the first post but I have not had HRV on any of the new watches fail completely yet.

                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                          A Former User @Brad_Olwin
                          last edited by 11 Nov 2023, 13:10

                          @Brad_Olwin HRV Button is toggled on, Sleep Times Set to 23.00-06.00, did. a hard reset in the Menu yesterday, and turned everything on again, still no HRV Value this Morning, guess my wrist is Not made for the Race…

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                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                            last edited by 11 Nov 2023, 13:12

                            @Torsten-Kessler I doubt it, there is no reason it should not work. I would contact support if this fails after the update on Monday.

                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                              Mads Hintz-Madsen @Guest
                              last edited by 11 Nov 2023, 14:03

                              @Torsten-Kessler Does the watch detect your night sleep ok?

                              I am asking because I had one night where my sleep wasn’t detected correctly (only 1h was detected and it was labeled as a nap) and that night subsequently didn’t have any HRV reading either.

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                                A Former User @Mads Hintz-Madsen
                                last edited by 11 Nov 2023, 14:31

                                @Mads-Hintz-Madsen yes, always above 6hs of sleep reported including resting Heart rate, O2Saturation, Deep and light phases, REM, just no value for HRV, except the First Night, where it was 52ms…

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                                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 12 Nov 2023, 20:50

                                  Im just getting a pretty wonky HRV value. Even though my sleep score is good, and other data says Im recovered and good to train, my first nights sleep had an HRV of 10ms, and the second night and HRV value of 15ms. Not sure that is even possible?

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                                    luke55 @Guest
                                    last edited by luke55 15 Feb 2024, 23:24

                                    Hi,

                                    Exactly the same problem here, over the past 60 days, I just got 5 values, and nothing the rest of the time.
                                    Did you succeed to make it work ?

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                                    • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                                      Sebastian Wagner 0
                                      last edited by Sebastian Wagner 0 16 Jul 2024, 13:08

                                      Hi, does somebody know the requirements of the HRV Tracking? I have Month with HRV Data,but from time to Time i don’t get a Value. For example Last Night. I got all the Sleep data, and nightly hr. But no HRV. I did everything the Same Like the Nights before. My HRV is between 94-114. in the last Time often lower , because i was stressed and ill. Sometimes higher.
                                      Ohne thought of me is, that maybe there is a Range where no Value is calculated?

                                      t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

                                      Sebastian Wagner 0S 1 Reply Last reply 23 Jul 2024, 05:12 Reply Quote 0
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                                        Sebastian Wagner 0 @Sebastian Wagner 0
                                        last edited by Sebastian Wagner 0 23 Jul 2024, 05:12

                                        @Sebastian-Wagner-0

                                        Update. One more Week with HRV data in the Book, but no Value Last Night. I wore the Watch the Same as the last Nights. Got Perfect Sleep and hr Tracking the whole Night. But no HRV. Can somebody help ne or have an explanation why i don‘t get HRV from Time to Time ? Maybe the Value is to high and because of that was Not tracked?

                                        @Brad_Olwin @Egika @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @pavel-samokha @isazi

                                        t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                                          luke55 @Sebastian Wagner 0
                                          last edited by 31 Jul 2024, 10:49

                                          @Sebastian-Wagner-0
                                          Some thoughts regarding HRV.
                                          Initially, I get almost no value during the first two months.
                                          I tried hard and soft reset several times , no effect, changent wrist, no effect.
                                          I started to get values when coming back from a trek in Nepal, but at the same time there was a software update, so difficult to conclude.
                                          Since, I am getting values relatively regularly, but not always.
                                          Since 1 week, temperature is going quite hot where I live, and again no value for 1 week, not sure if this is related.
                                          Also I have been told that my heartbeat is very soft, maybe the watch is unable to correctly detect peaks of heartbeat… ?

                                          That said, heartbeat frequency looks OK for me, either at wrist or with the Suunto smartbelt, but HRV measure is more complicated than simply heartbeat measure.

                                          Interested to know if you were able to notice relations between lack of HRV and changes in your environment…

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