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Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update

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    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @AnonVerticalOwner
    last edited by 8 Jan 2024, 18:44

    @AnonVerticalOwner hey I have some really good Infos about the physiology from our sleep. If you understand how exactly the Phases are perhaps you can find Out if the Suunto Algorithmus is working good or bad. Awake Times during our sleep is normal… Read it here

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      A Former User
      last edited by 8 Jan 2024, 20:01

      For my part, I am having difficulty detecting naps on my vertical. I had the breed before going vertical and had no problems with the breed. Naps were well detected and quantified.
      The vertical does not detect naps at all although sleep seems to me to be well monitored (bed/wake up times in accordance with reality) I entered the same physiological data in the race and in the vertical. I don’t understand anything.

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        freeheeler @Guest
        last edited by 8 Jan 2024, 20:35

        @Fizzgig
        Vertical does not track naps.
        it’s the Race only that tracks naps

        living sideways

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          A Former User @freeheeler
          last edited by 8 Jan 2024, 21:09

          @freeheeler

          the vertical having received the race update, I was convinced that the nap detection was activated.
          If it’s not, I don’t have any problem 😬

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            isazi Moderator @Guest
            last edited by 9 Jan 2024, 08:57

            @Fizzgig as @freeheeler said Vertical and S9PP do not support naps detection. As of today, only the Race support that. We will see if something changes in 2024, as you know the current algorithm is the first production ready sleep tracking algorithm from Suunto itself.

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              Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @isazi
              last edited by 9 Jan 2024, 11:11

              @isazi I hope this will soon change for SV

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                Iggge
                last edited by 13 Jan 2024, 06:06

                Last 14 days my Vertical is showing the same data as before the update. According to my Vertical I do sleep about 4 hours/night.
                That is clearly wrong and should as be at least 6 hours.
                It keep showing that every night I have about 2-4 hours awake time and show wrong wake up time.

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                  BrunoH Gold Members @Iggge
                  last edited by 22 Jan 2024, 05:29

                  @Iggge said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

                  howing the same data as before the update. According to my Vertical I do sleep about 4 hours/night.
                  That is clearly wrong and should as be at least 6 hours.
                  It keep showing that every night I have about 2-4 hours awake time and show wrong wak

                  I had been experiencing exactly the same symptoms since the sw update and I had already given up on the sleep tracking feature. But then… the dark winter time and dry freezing air made my psoriasis really flare and the skin irritation forced me to move the watch to my right wrist. It’s been two nights now and both were flawlessly tracked. Zero minutes spent awake and the time of falling asleep and waking up are as good as they can get. Interesting!

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                    Iggge
                    last edited by 12 Apr 2024, 05:11

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                    This is just getting worse by the day. This is how over 7 h looks like. For two days ago 7 hours was shown as 2.

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                      ChrisA Platinum Member @Iggge
                      last edited by 12 Apr 2024, 12:17

                      @Iggge have you tried another band? I had better sleep tracking with any Suunto (besides the Race) when using elastic Nylonbands which could be adjusted much better and also wearing those - even when worn tightly - was much more comfortable. You might also try different positions on either arm (seems to make quite a difference for some people).
                      I don’t know how the new algorithm for the Vertical works and if HR is used in the sleep calculations, but for me it always worked best, when setting my RHR in the watch about 8 to 10 points above my lowest average HR.

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                        Iggge @ChrisA
                        last edited by 12 Apr 2024, 20:34

                        @ChrisA I have not. Do you have anything you recommend?

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                          ChrisA Platinum Member @Iggge
                          last edited by 12 Apr 2024, 21:58

                          @Iggge I had/have different ones. One is from Yooside, the other one a cheaper one by Vodtian. I ordered them from Amazon. I also recall, that some people liked the really good Coros Nylonbands which comes with the Apex Pro 2. You just have to make sure it’s at least a bit elastic and a has a Velcro for fastening.

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                            Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @ChrisA
                            last edited by 15 Apr 2024, 17:33

                            Woke up at 4:55 this morning but the watch shows 7:30…

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                              Antoine Bronze Member @Frederick Rochette
                              last edited by 15 Apr 2024, 17:55

                              @Frederick-Rochette Have you set the good range in sleep tracking parameter?

                              Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                Iggge @ChrisA
                                last edited by 15 Apr 2024, 18:46

                                @ChrisA Thanks! I will buy a new band soon.

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                                  Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @Antoine
                                  last edited by 16 Apr 2024, 09:57

                                  @Antoine yes it’s 7:30 but exceptionally woke up at 4:55 and no activity was detected…

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                                    Iggge
                                    last edited by 7 Oct 2024, 04:18

                                    My Vertical have big problems with sleep analysis. This is last two nights…

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