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Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update

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    renton82 Platinum Member @BrunoH
    last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 06:18

    @BrunoH I didn’t noticed it since this morning. where I can find that thread?

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      BrunoH Gold Members @renton82
      last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 06:30

      @renton82 I think it was this one:

      https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

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        DrSilverthorn @DrSilverthorn
        last edited by DrSilverthorn 20 Nov 2023, 12:36

        After turning off the movement reminder, sleep tracking worked for me for the first time last night. And it was spot on. Will have to see what the future holds.

        Update: That was the one and only night that it worked. Since then, many nights have no sleep recorded at all. I am a restless sleeper, and tend to wake every 90 minutes or so - but sometimes not.

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          peegee @RightNow
          last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 12:54

          @RightNow yes i did but I feel like I’m changing physiology to suit technology, shouldn’t technology serve physiology?

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            peegee @Guest
            last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 12:55

            @tomasbartko me neither… wonder why

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              peegee @Patrick Löffler 0
              last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 13:04

              @Patrick-Löffler-0 I haven’t had the pleasure of getting reminded to stand up… looking forward for a surprise future reminder

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              Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
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                peegee @gone troppo
                last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 13:13

                @gone-troppo super bizarre! last night I got a better sleep reading than the previous ones but still over an hour less than the actual sleep duration.
                I’m going to keep on tracking… hoping for reliable results

                Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                  Egika Platinum Member
                  last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 14:03

                  The stand up reminder is triggered if you do less than 40 steps in a period of 2h.
                  If you then do move more, you are awarded (see below).
                  As Vertical step counter is pretty sensitive, it is probably counting more than those 40…
                  I have received the reminder a couple of times with Suunto Race.
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                    babychai Silver Members
                    last edited by babychai 20 Nov 2023, 14:06

                    @Egika
                    Today i received Stand up reminder after i sit for 2 hours. Is it remind every 2 hours if less than 40 steps for the next 2 hours?

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                      Patrick Löffler 0 Bronze Member @Egika
                      last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 16:36

                      @Egika Thanks for the pictures of the move alert. 40 steps in 2 hours is really not a lot. That’s probably the personal reason for me why I never get it.

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @peegee
                        last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 16:57

                        @peegee said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

                        @gone-troppo super bizarre! last night I got a better sleep reading than the previous ones but still over an hour less than the actual sleep duration.
                        I’m going to keep on tracking… hoping for reliable results

                        This happens to me as well. Sometimes sleep is perfect, it was last night and sometimes the watch states I am awake for 2h and I was not. It may be that I move around more during my sleep than most. I think the tracking will be improved. However, I have seen that the new firmware is far better than just a couple test versions prior. Sleep tracking is likely very difficult and I listen more to how I feel than what my watch tells me.

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                          peegee @peegee
                          last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:33

                          @peegee
                          Dissapointed again with 3 1/2h less sleep, after raising rest heart rate by 15 bpm… didn’t do any good at all😟

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                          Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                          Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                            Stefan Kersting
                            last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:55

                            if you want an evaluation of how good sleep tracking works I think you have to compare the watch tracking when sleeping in a sleeping lab. Even if we are sleeping we are moving a lot. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Some times we register at we have moved a lot, sometimes not. But the watch does 😉 so it would be interesting to compare the tracking of the watch with a camera recording of the sleep 😉

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                              AnonVerticalOwner @peegee
                              last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:56

                              Just adding my voice to the mix. Sleep tracking lost all accuracy after the update here too. The last three days read 12h, 2:23h, and 1:19h, while it should’ve read something like 5:30h, 7h, and 5:30h. It’s not just slightly off and balancing out; it is very far off.

                              I love the UI/nav changes and the additional bits, but would also love to keep the basics 😅

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                                Likarnik Bronze Member
                                last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:59

                                I find no difference in sleep times/awake times before/after update. Only thing I notice is high resources (before update, I was almost never above 90%, now it’s the opposite)

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                                  Stefan Kersting @Likarnik
                                  last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 08:21

                                  @Likarnik same here. Sleep tracking works fine for me. And I see too that I have up to 100 % ressources in the morning. But I noticed that I am not stressed at all. Maybe the stress will be tracked when I had 14 days with HRV tracking?

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                                    Likarnik Bronze Member @Stefan Kersting
                                    last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 08:25

                                    @Stefan-Kersting I guess we are not stressed anymore because update is finally here 😄

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                                      Stefan Kersting @Likarnik
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 08:43

                                      @Likarnik haha that’s right

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 09:20

                                        if you have sleep tracking problems, try to enable dnd just in case…

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                                          wmichi @Stefan Kersting
                                          last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 09:57

                                          @Stefan-Kersting I also have never seen that I am stressed on my SR. Only active/inactive and recovering in the night. But today I have a cold, my resting HR is higher, HRV dropped and my resources display “stressed”, since I got up. During the night resources went up much slower. Finally stressed again 🙂

                                          I think resources work pretty reliable now, at least in my observations. Big improvement to FirstBeat. Just a view minor annoyances (for example resources reset when charging/putting off the watch), but not a big deal. That resources no longer rely on user input (resting hr) is also big improvement (no more faking).

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