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    gilou
    last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 12:55

    Bonjour a tous,

    récent et heureux propriétaire une race (3 semaines), j’ai une petite interrogation quant a la valeur de la vo2max. j’ai fonctionné pendant 3 ans avec une S9 baro ma Vo2max n’ayant jamais depassé 46. Avec le meme volume d’entrainement, et une bonne dizaine d’activité enregistrées, elle arrive à 51. Donc pensez vous que l’algorithme de la race est réellement différent des anciennes versions ou une autre explication…

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      CuriousIndi
      last edited by 20 Jun 2024, 10:44

      Hello,

      I also have a Suunto Race, so far I have 7 runs most of them with Zone 4 & 5 as well.

      Screenshot under CTL it still says "Have at least one Outdoor Run to get Results (tranlated from German).

      Any news on an expected range of runs and what nature these runs should be?

      (Two oddities: I have increased resting HR to 75 to see if it improves sleep tracking performance (Answer is not really) and I’m waring the watch on the right side. )

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        andymsp73 @CuriousIndi
        last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 10:36

        @CuriousIndi
        Hi, my race is exactly the same (no vo2 max and/or fitness age), bought the watch Feb 24 and run average 20 miles/wk. Suunto have been unable to resolve the issue, they even sent me a new watch but it still says ‘run at least one run ….’ Do you need to calibrate somehow? The support from Suunto is awful!

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          surfboomerang @andymsp73
          last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 10:47

          @andymsp73 Have you tried running with a HR belt? I don’t know if Suunto does count the run when HR readings are too unreliable.

          Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
          OnePlus Nord 4

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            isazi Moderator @andymsp73
            last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 10:52

            @andymsp73 there is a bug on the Race that will be fixed in few weeks, at the moment you need to have a good run with external HR monitor

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              andymsp73 @isazi
              last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 11:03

              @isazi thanks for the reply, will the bug fix solve the VO2 readings then or will I need to purchase a external HR monitor as well?

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                andymsp73 @surfboomerang
                last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 11:09

                @surfboomerang no I haven’t, assumed the watch would work without one, what type of HR do I need ? Thanks for the reply!

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                  fifi1-3013 @andymsp73
                  last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 11:33

                  This morning I did a competitive race (14km) with thé “polar verity sens”, it worked.

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                    isazi Moderator @andymsp73
                    last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 11:52

                    @andymsp73 it will fix the behavior of VO2max, so that it works also with OHR

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                    Blog: isazi's home

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                      surfboomerang @andymsp73
                      last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 13:27

                      @andymsp73 it should work with OHR (it does on my Vertical), but with previous algorithm it would skip runs with a bad HR reading. I don’t know if the new Suunto native algorithm does the same. And if this is causing your issue.
                      So if you can get your hands on a belt, you can try.

                      Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                      OnePlus Nord 4

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                        andymsp73 @surfboomerang
                        last edited by 23 Jun 2024, 15:25

                        @surfboomerang thanks, the watch is advertised as providing VO2 and age fitness without the need to buy a HR monitor. Hopefully the new bug fix will sort this out but I’m not expecting it to. Appreciate the advice though 👍

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                          iwanczak @isazi
                          last edited by iwanczak 15 Aug 2024, 18:03

                          @isazi Does problem was fixed? I don’t think so.

                          I ordered Sunnto Race few months ago. Ive walked, run and no vo2max. One week ago I’ve purchased Kalenji HRB 500 monitor, connected with Race, done few running, walking and still no vo2max.

                          Every testing runs and walks I did in 2 and 3 intensity zones. I used original Race programs, as it was adviced by Suunto customer care in other post, 2 and 3 zones more than 8 minutes, no pausing, excellent GPS conditions, as it was also adviced via Suunto customer care, and no effect.

                          When I use Suunto Vertical vo2max appears after first, 15 minutes run, 3 zone was only 2 percent.

                          Unfortunately, using Race i can feel China quality… 😔

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                            Desdinova Bronze Member @iwanczak
                            last edited by 15 Aug 2024, 18:47

                            @iwanczak I’ve had a lot of vo2 readings, so your hr zones may be off. Do the lactate threshold test, set your z4 boundary from that and see if it helps perhaps?

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                              Desdinova Bronze Member @Desdinova
                              last edited by 15 Aug 2024, 18:51

                              @Desdinova f69a2fa5-762c-4601-8efd-1da167e968c3-image.png

                              An example

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                                iwanczak @Desdinova
                                last edited by 15 Aug 2024, 20:22

                                @Desdinova I have a correct hr zones, I input it manually. Lot of f people has a problem with vo2max on Race, write in Google phrase Vo2max Suunto Race and you will see results, not only on Suunto forum.

                                How I could make a lactate threshold test if CTL tile in watch inform me I need 3 more run to calculate
                                Lactate thresholdc (I’ve made a lot of runs).

                                Today walking : 1,5 h, 2-3 zones, Kalenji Hrb500 sensor, no vo2max result ☹️

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                                  Desdinova Bronze Member @iwanczak
                                  last edited by 15 Aug 2024, 20:25

                                  @iwanczak Normally a vo2 calculation is triggered by zones, so the zones are always a good place to start. I’d try editing your hr zones anyway, try just by changing them by 1 bpm, then doing the LT test anyway. At this stage you have nothing to lose by trying…

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                                    Desdinova Bronze Member @Desdinova
                                    last edited by 15 Aug 2024, 20:28

                                    @Desdinova use the lt suuntoplus guide perhaps as that requires a 30 min power effort,

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                                      Desdinova Bronze Member @Desdinova
                                      last edited by Desdinova 15 Aug 2024, 20:34

                                      Interestingly enough, I just checked my activity history as I’m a new owner myself. I got a vo2 for my first run, but that was a trail run, and it took three “normal” runs before I got them to show on ths widget on the watch…

                                      As a test, sign up for a free Runalyze account and link it to suunto, Viewing the activity in Runalyze will show if a reading was obtained in the background perhaps…? That was showing me vo2 readings even though I wasn’t seeing them or the predicted times until I did three road runs.

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                                        iwanczak @Desdinova
                                        last edited by 15 Aug 2024, 20:51

                                        @Desdinova OK, thx. I will read data from Runalyze but synchronisation will take some time :

                                        “Your activities will be downloaded within the next hours. This may take some time. You can close this window.”.

                                        I will let you know what data I read.

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                                          Desdinova Bronze Member @iwanczak
                                          last edited by Desdinova 15 Aug 2024, 20:54

                                          @iwanczak Hope it helps…

                                          It may help identify if the bug is

                                          A) vo2 is being calculated by the watch but some bug is stopping the widget seeing it or

                                          B)) it’s not being calculated at all…

                                          I suspect A as there is a weird bug with the vo2 complication… on some watchfaces I’ve noticed it doesn’t show any reading, whereas on others it does

                                          Good luck!

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