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Suunto Race incorrectly classifying running session?

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    Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
    last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 09:10

    Hi all,

    Quick question. Just went on a easy morning run, 40 minutes in zone 2. Any idea of why Suunto (not sure if watch or App to be honest) is classifying this as Anaerobic/Aerobic and not Aerobic? Never happened to me before, usually my zone 2 runs would fall into the Aerobic bucket.

    As a side note, is there any way to manually change that in the Edit menu?

    Link to the activity for reference.
    https://maps.suunto.com/move/pierluigicingolani/65684160e5b6df02e9a53397

    Many thanks in advance!

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Pier Luigi Cingolani
      last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 18:18

      @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani I cannot get your activity to load. Check your HR zones, resting and max HR. The activity will depend on this, if you were at the upper end of Z2 then this is accurate as the top of Z2 should be your Aerobic Threshold.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        tiago Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
        last edited by tiago 30 Nov 2023, 18:35

        @Brad_Olwin so my stats probably won’t right since I have the Race,the customers support told me to increase my resting heart rate in order to the watch recognize I’m sleeping,so my rhr is about 47/49 and i input 60 as my resting heart rate. I’m wondering if it’s for that reason in runalyze and Garmin my vo² after almost of my runs are in the range of 52,5 /54 and Suunto give me a vo²of 51,5 . It’s just a number and means nothing,but I’m just trying to figure if that maybe the case. Maybe the workaround is before go to sleep set my rhr at 60 and sync with the app and when wake up before go to my run set my real value of rhr and check if make some influence
        Ps. My maximum HR is right and I set my zones by threshold HR.

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @tiago
          last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 18:40

          @tiago Your Z2/3 break might be too low if you set threshold for Z4/5 only. You can use the Aerobic Decoupling app to get a good idea of your Aerobic Threshold. For me, if my run is Z1/2 but stays mostly below 50% level of Z2 I will get tagged with Aerobic. If like yesterday I am on the upper end of Z2 it is tagged Aerobic/Anaerobic.

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            tiago Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by tiago 30 Nov 2023, 18:49

            @Brad_Olwin I set by percentages of threshold. Normally for me end of Z2 give me as aerobic/anaerobic too. My question is if the resting heart rate is higher than reality can mess with the vo² algorithm from the watch. Because normally vo² is calculated by pace and heart rate reserve, that’s why almost all the brands use rhr data.

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              Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
              last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 21:48

              @Brad_Olwin don’t see any difference with previous activities. Conversely, I use TSS® to calculate training stress, and my running paces were set a little slower than usual, as I was recovering from an injury. Now that I am almost fully recovered, I effectively run 40% of my run in what is set as my zone 3 pace as per the watch. Is pace also being used to classify the workout or it’s only based on HR zones?

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                tiago Bronze Member @Pier Luigi Cingolani
                last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 21:58

                @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani TSS r is only to score how much stress you get from your running session. To classify the run all brands use HR and pace.

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                  Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @tiago
                  last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 10:33

                  @tiago ok so you are saying pace zones are indeed used to classify the workout. That would indeed be the only way for this to have happened, as I have had runs with higher AVG and max HR that were still classified as Aerobic

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