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Software update 2.30.32

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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Olaf Gottschalk
    last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 09:36

    @Olaf-Gottschalk I am raising this issue internally. I’ll see what the response is. Do you think it’s related to the charging? Ie charging the watch stops calories steps and sleep sync ?

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      Olaf Gottschalk Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 09:58

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos that is just my suspicion.
      As it happened to me twice exactly like this and not any other way.

      Something goes wrong also with the sleep syncing when you connect it directly after waking up. That’s what I noticed in relation to the missing steps…

      But as I said - with only 2 data points it’s hard to definitely answer.

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        SuuntoR Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 09:58

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

        Could you be also so kind to raise this ctl/atl/tsb/tss not syncing correctly between the watch and the app? 🙏☺️

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          SirMcKey Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 10:01

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Good morning Dimitrios, maybe offtopic, but who knows…
          After a conversation with freeheeler, I sent my log-data to suunto because the watch went blank during battery charching. Firmware 2.30.26, Suunto Vertical. Could it be a coinsident?
          Didn´t want to disturb. Have a nice weekend, everybody! 😳

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            Olaf Gottschalk Bronze Member @SuuntoR
            last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 10:38

            @SuuntoR this is fixed here now if you refer to the values being displayed 0 CTL 0 TSB every morning.

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              jjpaz Bronze Member @SuuntoR
              last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 10:50

              @SuuntoR The issue was also commented after new Suunto Vertical software was launched and happens to all users with SV, SR and S9PP. Could be related to SuuntoApp not sending correct data to the watch?

              Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                SuuntoR Bronze Member @jjpaz
                last edited by SuuntoR 12 Feb 2023, 12:02 2 Dec 2023, 10:59

                @jjpaz

                My guess would be, its still on watch software. This guess is because i have noticed that those incorrect tsb etc. numbers will be ok after the soft reset AND even before the sync to the app. So it seems the correct numbers are already in the watch but “stuck” or something and the soft reset brings those back to life…

                Edit: i could not repeat the behaviour it would sync correct numbers after softreset without syncing again with the app. But anyway the watch softreset helps so i still would guess its on the watch side…

                Edit 2: when I think this little further, maybe you @jjpaz are right that its something to do with SA not sending the data correctly to the watch. After power off and on, the watch wont show any tsb etc data before syncing to the app. So there is no right or wrong data. But after the sync, data is incorrect on the watch (in my case it seems to show yesterdays tsb etc. on the watch). So watch must get wrong information from Suunto app? But why? I mean like I have written couple of post before, after the midnight sync between watch and the app is ok and the numbers match. So after midnight sa sends right data but not anymore in the next morning. But the soft reset for watch helps. Is this some date/time bug, watch somehow gives wrong information about the date or time when syncing in the morning. And thats why SA sends incorrectly yesterdays data to watch and after that watch “freezes” also with the new stats for current day like tss…? Do you already see a tin foil hat in my head? 😂 but i’m sure this is not very difficult bug to be solved after all…

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                  Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 11:02

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                  I don’t have all of @Olaf-Gottschalk’s problems with sleep measurement, which works well, for example.

                  On the other hand, like everyone else, I’m affected by the fact that the indicators don’t synchronise properly, especially the HRV.
                  And I’ve just done the test,
                  1 Synchro iOS - SRace, multiple times.
                  2 The two tools are misaligned.
                  3 Restart SRace
                  4 Synchro iOS - SRace.
                  5 The two tools are now aligned (both on the 7-day average and on the past night).

                  This behaviour leaves a lot to be desired. It’s abnormal that it doesn’t adjust perfectly at every synchronisation.

                  After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Olaf Gottschalk
                    last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 11:25

                    @Olaf-Gottschalk

                    Does OHR LEDs still blink after wearing the watch? If not, try going to HEART RATE/BLOOD OXYGEN widgets, etc. If OHR LEDs still blink, go to sleep widget and test step counter again. If OHR LEDs won’t blink no matter how hard you try, then 12s upper button reset please.

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                      Dušan Ković
                      last edited by Dušan Ković 12 Feb 2023, 12:26 2 Dec 2023, 12:26

                      After the update sleep tracking has improved, at least for me. Last night was spot on. Watch still doesn’t measure steps during the night, but at least awake segments look correct.

                      Biggest disappointment is no custom battery mode. I used it all the time. Meaning no touch screen enable/disable and no option to turn off display during workouts. I think it would be beneficial for amoled screen to be able to turn it off. It would last longer.

                      SR
                      SA latest beta
                      Polar Verity Sense
                      Pixel 6

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                        Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
                        last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 12:30

                        @Dušan-Ković But you knew it didn’t exist before you bought the product 😉
                        It’s not a bug, it’s a feature that you want and that Suunto has never announced on this product.

                        After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                          Dušan Ković @Arnaud Lclr
                          last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 12:47

                          @Arnaud-Lclr I didn’t, I had a couple of suunto watches, and all of them had it. Vertical also has custom battery mode, so it seems logical that Race has it also

                          SR
                          SA latest beta
                          Polar Verity Sense
                          Pixel 6

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                            Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member @Theo Lakerveld
                            last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 16:01

                            I noticed something “new” today. Straight after waking up, my total sleep was shown by the watch as ~6,5 hours (0:15 - 06:45). This was afterwards synced and visible on my phone. After a while this was “corrected” to ~8,5 hours (0:15 - 08:45). The latter corresponds exactly with my actual sleep. No unreasonable awake time was visible anymore either. So it looks like the watch reevaluates the sleep after a while and corrects it after a new synchronisation.

                            Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @wmichi
                              last edited by Brad_Olwin 12 Feb 2023, 16:22 2 Dec 2023, 16:19

                              @wmichi Yes I am on the same firmware as you. I will post this to the test site and see how we should proceed. It may require you all send logs but I will put this up. Clearly something that is reasonably prevalent is going on.

                              Never mind, I see that @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos already commented on this. I am in the US so I miss a lot happening while I am sleeping. We should be able to figure out what is happening and get a solution going.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                wmichi @Brad_Olwin
                                last edited by wmichi 12 Feb 2023, 16:52 2 Dec 2023, 16:50

                                @Brad_Olwin Thanks! I wonder if it works generally for everyone in the US and here in Europe we all have the same problem. Maybe related to the timezone the user is in. Or related to daylight saving time… either way, I can provide logs at any time 😃

                                I switched today before noon to S9PP (with newest firmware) and did a hard reset. After setting the watch up again, all the training stats have been correct. Then I did a 30min core workout, synced with the app and to my surprise, the values on the watch are still in line with the values in the app. With the Race this was never correct, even on the latest firmware. I am already curios what the watch displays tomorrow morning 😄

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                                  wmichi @Theo Lakerveld
                                  last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 16:53

                                  @Theo-Lakerveld I saw the same on my Race. Right after waking up it only showed 5 hours sleep, 30min later the values have been corrected automatically (spot on),

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                                    Mads Hintz-Madsen @wmichi
                                    last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 17:05

                                    @wmichi this is exactly the experience I had with the Race on the first day after the new update. App and watch was in sync both before and after a workout on the first day after updating the firmware. After midnight the Race and app got out of sync and new workouts were not properly reflected in the watch anymore,

                                    So check your SPP after midnight today (or should I actually write tomorrow 😉 ) and see if app and SPP are still in agreement!

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                                      wmichi @Mads Hintz-Madsen
                                      last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 17:11

                                      @Mads-Hintz-Madsen I will report back 😄 Who knows, maybe the hard reset did the trick.

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                                        Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member @wmichi
                                        last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 19:38

                                        @wmichi now the app shows 6,5 hours again while the watch shows 8.5. Seems that some adjusting still needs to be done at the sync algorithm.

                                        Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Mads Hintz-Madsen
                                          last edited by 3 Dec 2023, 01:13

                                          @Mads-Hintz-Madsen The watch must have a full sync before you check. I have noticed that my watch does not necessarily sync when I wake up. I have to open the app and make sure the watch syncs. Sometimes the CTL values don’t sync the first time but require two syncs, this happens when I change watches. I tested today with a Vertical I have not used in awhile and after two syncs with SA the values match. I don’t think it has anything to do with time of day or time zone.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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