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BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    gilou @pavel.samokha
    last edited by gilou 4 Apr 2024, 06:47 4 Apr 2024, 06:46

    @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

    @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

    est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

    S+ app is not required

    @pavel-samokha merci pour tes conseils. j’ai enfin réussi a avoir mes données de course ainsi que le seuil lactique en ajoutant l’application S+ "HR zones Duration " Alors même si cet ajout n’est pas requis pour avoir ces valeurs, cela a du bien aider. J’avais deja une dizaine d’activités post mise a jour avant cette dernière. J’espère que cela pourra aider ceux qui étaient dans le même cas que moi.

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      Mi_chael Bronze Member
      last edited by 6 Apr 2024, 08:16

      After 3 or 4 run after the update. My race show the run prediction and the lactate threshold.

      I run 10 minutes or more on z2 and 10 minutes or more on z3.

      And i use a Polar H10.

      Thanks Suunto !

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        Geoffwilli
        last edited by 1 May 2024, 14:14

        I’ve had my race since it launched and still no run prediction or threshold data. Run 5 times a week around 100k all sorts of activities but have never had anything in these fields.

        Am I doing something wrong!?

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          wmichi @Geoffwilli
          last edited by 1 May 2024, 14:54

          @Geoffwilli It only works if you use the internal OHR, not with external sensors.

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            Geoffwilli @wmichi
            last edited by 1 May 2024, 15:11

            @wmichi
            Yeah that’s what I’ve been using. Frustrating as it seems a common issue.

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              A Former User @Geoffwilli
              last edited by A Former User 5 Jan 2024, 15:20 1 May 2024, 15:19

              @Geoffwilli said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

              Yeah that’s what I’ve been using. Frustrating as it seems a common issue.

              you only need 3 whr workouts to unlock it…

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                Mi_chael Bronze Member
                last edited by 1 May 2024, 15:43

                For me and my Suunto Race,

                Works after 3 run with a Polar H10.

                But with 10 minutes in zone 2 and 10 minutes in zone 3.

                After that i can see my run prediction and lactate threshold.

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                  Geoffwilli @Guest
                  last edited by 1 May 2024, 15:44

                  @cjanevate I’ve probably done about 300 and still nothing

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                    Geoffwilli @Mi_chael
                    last edited by 1 May 2024, 16:03

                    @Mi_chael I’ve completed all sorts of different running sessions and have done sessions within those zones for longer than the 10min you mentioned. As someone previously noted, it would be useful if Suunto outlined what was required and then it would be clear if there is an error with the software.

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                      Mi_chael Bronze Member @Geoffwilli
                      last edited by 1 May 2024, 16:16

                      @Geoffwilli

                      You’re right. It’s not clear at all.

                      But for sure. I run with a Polar H10 heart rate strap.

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                        Ryan Mullins
                        last edited by 15 May 2024, 22:19

                        I’ve seen a few suggestions that you need to use wrist heart rate to get LT and Race Predictions

                        I tried a run with just wrist HR and it was so bad to start that I wouldn’t trust the predictions it might come up with and didn’t try more runs.

                        Any word on when this might be resolved? Would the calculations work using a Suunto Smart Belt?

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                          Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Ryan Mullins
                          last edited by 16 May 2024, 07:03

                          @Ryan-Mullins As far as I know this will be solved in the next major update. Solved means that it will make predictions even if you use an external HR unit.

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                            EzioAuditore Gold Members @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                            last edited by 16 May 2024, 13:29

                            It seems I am too affected by this on the Race (weird enough it works on the Vertical). I’ve had the Race for 10 days now and run almost every day and while the Vo2Max is computed the treshold and the estimations are not. Of course I am always running with the H10 or Garmin Pro Plus (external HRs). Is this known that OHR should be used? If yes this will result in quite ‘unrealistic’ results since the OHR always locks on my cadence somethimes as high as 210 while my Max HR achieved with H10 / Garmin is 178.

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                              Ryan Mullins @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                              last edited by 16 May 2024, 14:00

                              @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud That would be terrific

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                                Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @EzioAuditore
                                last edited by 16 May 2024, 15:16

                                @EzioAuditore yes, it has been written here by Suunto that you need to use OHR for now. Next major release will solve the issue according to Suunto.

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                                  EzioAuditore Gold Members @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                                  last edited by 16 May 2024, 15:56

                                  @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud OK cool. Thanks.

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                                    isazi Moderator @EzioAuditore
                                    last edited by 17 May 2024, 14:40

                                    @EzioAuditore it may be that you need only to unlock this one (i.e. run once with the OHR) and after you get the first value using the external monitor works. Should be fixed with new firmware.

                                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                    Blog: isazi's home

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                                      EzioAuditore Gold Members @isazi
                                      last edited by 18 May 2024, 08:40

                                      @isazi thanks mate. I am in no rush to get the estimates but would like to know the LT with the Suunto. Will try and run my long run this Sunday with OHR though. Cheers and have a nice day.

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                                        Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @isazi
                                        last edited by 18 May 2024, 10:42

                                        @isazi didn’t work for me.

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                                          isazi Moderator @EzioAuditore
                                          last edited by 18 May 2024, 12:58

                                          @EzioAuditore for the LT, better do the S+ test, the estimate from the Race does not work for me.

                                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                          Blog: isazi's home

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