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    surfboomerang @Airo
    last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 06:40

    @Airo said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

    I thought they were the hours with the sun present, but they are the hours of daylight. For me the presence of the sun is important because of the changes of the wind. I fly with the Paragliding …

    Genuine question…
    Do I understand correctly that you want to know the amount of sun at a particular time? How would that be measured? By irradiance levels, lack of cloud formations…?

    The weather widgets shows an hourly forecast but that’s all it is, a forecast.

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      Airo @surfboomerang
      last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 12:26

      @surfboomerangI just want to know from when to when it’s sunny.
      There is an app that tells you that based on your location. I would have liked the clock to do it too, but it “only” shows the daylight hours.

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        Airo @Egika
        last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 12:30

        @Egika The watch show the daylight, not when the sun rise up.
        There is already light before of the sunrise, but the wind change significantly in the moment when the sun show up.
        that is important for paragliding.

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          surfboomerang @Airo
          last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 14:11

          @Airo The watch does show when the sun rises. It just doesn’t show you when it’s sunny in your location. Only the weather widget forecast comes close to that.

          Some background info:
          http://wordpress.mrreid.org/2013/02/05/dawn-dusk-sunrise-sunset-and-twilight/

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            Airo @surfboomerang
            last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:07

            @surfboomerang I understood the point… Here there are big mountains, so we see the sun later than is shown in the widget.

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Airo
              last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:27

              @Airo I have the same issue as you. Sun disappears much earlier than sunset because of our mountains, I don’t know of any app or watch that will tell you sun visibility.

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                Mff73 @Brad_Olwin
                last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 16:30

                @Brad_Olwin said in Sunrise and sunset are wrong:

                @Airo I have the same issue as you. Sun disappears much earlier than sunset because of our mountains, I don’t know of any app or watch that will tell you sun visibility.

                there is a website i discoverd some time ago :
                https://shademap.app/

                Reading the tone of some people in this thread i refrain myself to share, but, for others i do 😉

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                  surfboomerang @Airo
                  last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 17:04

                  @Airo Ah ok, never thought of that one. I live in a region where the nearest mountain is hundreds of kilometers away 😄

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                    Airo @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 19:08

                    @Brad_Olwin I use the app Peak Finder. It shows you exactly where and what time the sun arrives, according to your position . It show you also the name and high of the mountains around you. That is very useful for me.
                    Maybe one day, the watch, could bring these informations from somewhere ?

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Mff73
                      last edited by 21 Dec 2023, 19:32

                      @Mff73 cal topo and other mapping platforms can be used for this. Good point.

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                        sartoric Moderator @Airo
                        last edited by sartoric 21 Dec 2023, 22:36

                        @Airo
                        You can ask them to use Suunto API for some suunto+ feature, but I guess it wont be easy to implement, since it would probably need to use preloaded data (if it’s not a real time calculation)

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Airo
                          last edited by 22 Dec 2023, 02:48

                          @Airo I use Peak Finder as well but not used that feature. Thanks!

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                            fabula670
                            last edited by 22 Dec 2023, 06:37

                            Btw, another PeakFinder user here, great app.

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