@_Luki danke das ergebniss ist eindeutig…schade das das mit der neueren uhr so schlecht geworden ist…hoffe auf Verbesserungen so hat das widget null Zweck…

@jinkelasaodang the default watch face: yes. Which others are there?

@usainzg in my case it was a bit different. There was a clear lag when panning around the map. I had a video, but unfortunately deleted it as it improved and seems to be ok now.

@elbee I don’t fully agree that it’s only person related. I’ve used several watches with optical heart rate sensors, including the Pixel Watch 3 and 4, the Galaxy Watch Ultra, and the Garmin Fenix 7X Pro. All of them provide reliable heart rate readings on my wrist without any noticeable issues. With the Suunto Race S, and now with the Race, I still experience occasional cadence lock and workouts where heart rate is clearly underreported or not captured correctly. What’s confusing is that some activities are recorded perfectly, while others are not. Since other brands work well for me under the same conditions, I don’t think the issue can be explained purely by individual physiology. There seems to be something specific about Suunto’s optical HR implementation or algorithms that makes it more sensitive in certain situations. That’s what I struggle to understand. If optical heart rate measurement generally didn’t work for me, I would simply accept it and use an external sensor. But based on my experience with several other watches, optical HR clearly does work for me. That’s why I find these inconsistent results on the Race and Race S difficult to explain.

@isazi if you can create it would be nice, yes

@Thorlap71 Fixed via cloud updates than you for the report

@2b2bff said: Or it is a hardware issue that is triggered with the new firmware. Had something like this before on a PC. Bad memory module - worked fine with Windows 98 or so, but failed with Linux. OMG I had the exact opposite! I could not use Win98 anymore because it would freeze a mere minutes after booting, and switched to Linux where my computer worked fine. The year was 1998

@johann.fuehrer thank you. Just did it, will see how it goes. Hopefully this issue will get fixed with the next update

A new relase is aviable : *Release notes 2.56.28 Staged update starting on August 31st, 2026 This update improves software stability and includes several bug fixes Improvements: Improved overall stability Fixed an issue where pool swimming distance and duration could be displayed incorrectly in certain scenarios* I hope this will correct the bug !

@MdzOtt Thank you for the info. I was just wondering if the connection would persist, when no S+ Apps are enabled. Just to find out if there is any connection between the issue and the S+ Apps. But now we also have the new software, where we do not know if an improvement for the connection drops was included or not. So two Options to test. btw, I think the ZoneSense App is not necessary anymore, as it is included as “standard” Data in the trainings.

@johann.fuehrer I guess we have a bug unless there is other explanation

@Egika ah - I understand, my misunderstanding as I use it a bit different. For me raise to wake on configuration uses 6-7% battery a day (Vertical 2). This was the best I could get (OX measurement off, 24h HR on). That gives me without training about two weeks. Then after each charging I need to do the soft reset, otherwise battery-drain is awful.

@Thorlap71 try a different charger to check, I use any random charger I have around though, so I doubt that is the case, but you never know. If I was you I would contact support, and ask for a replacement if under warranty.

@the_jav why would we want all this historical data stored in/on the watch? That is what the app is for IMO.

@Egika hopefully S+ apps could be used in watch mode some day ️🫣

Oui, on est plusieurs à avoir constaté ça. Espérons que Suunto corrige le bogue rapidement.

@Egika said: @Thorlap71 have you followed the recommendation of resetting your watch? It should definitely not reboot randomly. If this happens during exercise, maybe some S+ might be causing it. I have no idea if the next FW update will change something for you. Regarding mobile notifications: You can now select in the watch to be notified in watch mode and during exercise independently. Maybe re-check your settings for both cases. It works for me. Hello, For me it was reboot 3-4 times a day since the new firmware. During exercise as well as during “normal” watch usage. Right after the last reboot (during activity), I sent the log with the app. I tried soft reset, with no luck. I downgraded and no more reboot. Regards

@Egika said: I ever wondered why anyone would like to know their step count. It must have been some good marketing from whoever came up with this… I looked into the history of “step count” and asking some people I know who use that metric, and I think a few things came together to make it popular. First was the “10000 steps” idea made by a Japanese marketing firm years ago which I think people liked as being an easy number to remember, and it was promoted as a universal thing (compare with tracking active calories, where people of different weights like need different targets). https://www.nuhs.edu/debunking-the-10000-step-myth-figuring-out-what-actually-matters/ It also resonates with some people as some of their “natural activity counts” towards it, so walking around the house, etc. gets one somewhat toward the goal then they just need to “finish their steps.” I still see it ideally as more of a “training wheels” metric and think at least tracking active calories is better (so other activities like cycling and yoga “count better” despite not having many steps, as opposed to Polar’s system that assigns “step equivalents” to encourage non-walking activity). And Suunto puts steps and calories on the same Daily Health page so I can see someone new to fitness and Suunto thinking “need steps” eventually learning to use calories instead.