I was comparing to my previouse suunto 5 after i purchased Race 2. Path on map looked much more strait (more correct) so thats may be reason for little shorter distance. I had problem with S5 that while hiking under trees route was too zig-zag and it extended real distance.

@Liviu-Nastasa That aligns with what I’m seeing. Looking at reviews of the watch when it was released, some criticized it precisely for not being as accurate in GPS tracking as previous models and for overestimating the actual distance. Perhaps the algorithm was corrected in the November update, and now it reports a shorter distance than the actual distance… I’ve had the watch for a week now, with the November software (and since today with the new update). I’ll test it again against the SV tomorrow. An example from yesterday activity: Suunto Vertical, distance showed in the watch: 12.48km. Distance showed in GPX file: 12.49km. [image: 1767796282319-selecci%C3%B3n_5035.png] Suunto Race 2, distance showed in the watch: 12.33km. Distance showed in GPX file: 12.49km. [image: 1767796325633-selecci%C3%B3n_5036.png] So Race 2 is “cutting” distance respect data showed in GPS data file. May be this behavior was introduced with november update. Furthermore, you can see that the Vertical track seems cleaner in the various curves and loops. I went through the same route several times; it’s a park I do six or seven times, looping around it.

@Turo-Jantunen the fix for this skiing issue is planned for the Q1 firmware afaik

@MdzOtt said in Can't remove routes that were synced from Strava: However, if you have an Android tablet or you run an Android emulator on Windows, suddenly SA is a decent option Another option is to run an iOS Suunto app on MacBook - this way I have a full screen route editor on laptop. But I still prefer Strava route editor because heatmap data is better and because I can overlay Strava segments. And by the way, Strava route editor does support on-route waypoints.

@tobiasbecker850 I fully agree

@rikohock I had this problem once or twice, quite a while ago, and a somewhat similar problem – the inability to delete routes from the watch. But I haven’t noticed anything like that in recent months.

I will reply to myself, since my last post saying that I got bad ox saturation got downvoted, I understand there is some distrust in my claim, i re-enabled the widget (that I removed because the last time I used it my watch rebooted itself…). Here is two SpO2 measurement taken back to back in good conditions, using the original silicon wristband, showing levels that should have taken me to a hospital (i’m fine) [image: 1767609596185-51b12383-0d94-4f8a-ab5f-5b3f9ccf9960-image.png] [image: 1767609640779-6fe90a5e-a424-4e4d-9fe1-df608a591d16-image.png]

@sky-runner Thanks I will try this out

C’est à dire que si je pars d’un point éloigné du coin du terrain et que je «lap» arrivé au coin, il ne de passe rien quand j’y repasse …

After 17 walking activities with SV2, some on flat terrain and some on hilly terrain I got 1st V02max today. It was a brisk walk on flat terrain in zone 1 with good GPS and OHR. Great way to finish this year.

@sky-runner your first point even weight more if you don’t turn a map in the size of the screen, but a map that is larger than the screen, as the centre point of this “disc” is off-centre of the watch screen… IIRC Garmin just uses the RAM of the SoC and Suunto use the same SoC (at least in the Race and Race S) with additional RAM. From my memory it is 11 MB, but that doesn’t really changes the whole situation…

I use the Race 2 with Wahoo HR strap and it works with no issues. The strap connects to my bike computer and the watch when I ride, or just to the watch when I XC ski.

I would very much like to disable VO2max detection for trail running activities too. When I owned Garmin, my VO2max continuously declining because a do at least 1-2 serious trail runs per week on a steep terrain. Once I disabled trail running VO2max on Garmin, the estimate steadily went up from 47 to over 52 in just a few months. Now, that I have owned Suunto Race S and S for over a year, my VO2max has been stuck in the 48-49 range, occasionally going to upper 49. I feel that is a bit too low. Every time I do a trail run, it always goes down to lower 48 or even upper 47. The funny thing is that I am a relatively better trail runner than I am a road runner. I have good and efficient technique when running on technical trails, but despite that the VO2max estimate is always punished!

@BokiRun why not a Race S?

@2b2bff 🫣

It’s nice to see some positive comments, so many posts are pretty negative. I fully agree with your experience. I have switched between Suunto and Garmin for 20+ years. Over time, each had their strengths and weaknesses. I think Suunto Race 2 is one of the best options sports and adventure watches available. The UI is logical, intuitive and provides simple and effective options for navigating with the 2 buttons, scroll wheel (great for map zooming in and out), and touchscreen. The data is spot on, no fluff, and the new oHR sensor works great. I personally like the architecture of keeping Suunto Plus apps separate - you add only stuff you want, unlike Garmin packing it all into the base watch (and making it cluttered and more of a learning curve). It looks amazing and feels great on the wrist. I won’t be switching back to Garmin anytime soon if ever. Three improvements I would like to see (1) add routable maps with trail and feature names (2) allow more than 2 Suunto Plus apps to run during an activity (3) sync all data both ways between the watch and app so all data is global (like the app) vs local to the watch. That would allow for multiple watches to act as one from a data perspective. It would also allow data added from other sources (bike computer, manually entered) be reflected on the watch. My 3 cents.