@zhangschmidt I like his English with the southern German dialect.

@SuperFlo75, @gipfelkind, Thanks for the answers!

I have similar issues on my Race S several months ago an apparently fixed a couple of firmware update ago. In recent weeks I realized the problems popped up intermittently. I had been diligently sync-ing and exporting Stryd-only data for my runs and compare them to Suunto’s data. About half the time, the power numbers matched well, while the others will be off by 5 to 10w. And when the data got merged into Power Center, the Suunto’s numbers persisted, “compromising” the overall data quality. This is really frustrating.

@GiPFELKiND I am having the exact same problem with Vertical 2 and external HRM https://forum.suunto.com/post/185907

@martintrail My Vertical behaves slightly differently. It correctly detects naps, sleep onset, and wake-up time. However, it doesn’t seem to capture the many times I get up, sit on the bed, move from the bed to the couch, etc. When compared with Whoop and Garmin, the Vertical tends to smooth out those awake moments and classify them as “light sleep.”

@Sportsfreund In my case, it worked very well. On Race, now on V2. But today, it started detecting sleep with 1 hour delay.

@runomatic Amazing

This has perhaps been discussed already so I apologise if this is the case. Is there a way to have the watch beep for the start and end of an interval in an activity whilst having tones and vibration turned off in settings-general? I prefer having all tones and vibrations off by default. I do not run with headphones. It is useful for tones during a workout so you don’t need to look at the watch to see when the current interval starts and ends but it is quite inconvenient if the only way to enable this is to turn on tones in settings before starting the activity each time. If it can’t be done currently I think it would be a good thing to include in future software updates.

@Chewtube Just import the GPX route into the Komoot app. When it asks if you want to edit (modify) it, select no, save it, and that’s it. After a few minutes, you’ll automatically see it in the Suunto app, along with the turn-by-turn. Requires one of the Komoot Premium versions. [image: 1771323518727-1000134502.png]

@prakalejas chose activity as quick as possible (on car park to make sure that GPS fix will be ok) push start button before going uphill. I have spoken to Suunto help desk, they told me that this is known issue for vertical 2 and race 2 and asked me for send them my logs

@e6321 I’ve been using sportwatches, smartwatches, and fitness bands from different manufacturers for decades, and only the Vertical 2 gives me this issue. Even the Vertical 1 never caused these problems. I think the hardware has now reached a very high level of precision, just like the algorithms that interpret the signals. However, the additional customizations introduced at the software level to improve data representation may be adding noise — or removing noise — from the signal.

Fortunately, it’s not like Garmin, where they advertise a million unnecessary features and users get badges even for sleeping…

@used2knowme I have no idea why your post has been downvoted. I certainly can’t see any difference, and if it is dynamic, that doesn’t work that well as the watch is way too bright at night.

@Egika [image: 1770907355583-1000144681.jpg] I did more runs like this

@maszop It is not yet possible to control enable or disable touch for Vertical 2. But maybe soon…

@manno02 does it work when you turn off auto-stop?

@stbuk Atleast on android you can set time in bed in the phone apps sleep widget. Daily sleep goal->Time in bed

@Audaxjoe I agree with you. The best would be choose one option in the setting menù of activity. Like this for the handlebar bike/mtb use insn’t usefull. One compromise would be to choose (with option) to stop the display brightness to the first step after 8 sec without AOD. Would be a solution for bike activity where you use the watch on handelbar.