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    [Watch] SSU : altitude changes with temperature

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    • Mff73M Offline
      Mff73 @sartoric
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      @sartoric
      Thanks for the test.
      And yes, I have done 12s reset, and firmware flash as well.
      Maybe it is time for my SSU to go back Finland for some guaranty expertise.
      I will let some other experts here tell me their feeling before 😉

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      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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        Looks like a problem I need to report!

        The temperature of course affects altitude but it should not when paused.

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        • sartoricS Offline
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          Maybe there is something wrong with GPS receiver (or the accelerometer ?).
          Also the average speed changes significantly

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
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            @sartoric good point

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            • Mff73M Offline
              Mff73 @sartoric
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              @sartoric said in [Watch] SSU : altitude changes with temperature:

              Maybe there is something wrong with GPS receiver (or the accelerometer ?).
              Also the average speed changes significantly

              Hi,
              My video was made indoor, so GPS was certainly awful.
              But this phenomenon is totally the same than when I am really outdoor for activity : pause in movement (but not a pause in recording activity).

              Hi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , thank you for reporting, and I can send you fit files for my last faulty move and my wife’s one to compare if needed.

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              • Mff73M Offline
                Mff73
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in [Watch] SSU : altitude changes with temperature:

                Looks like a problem I need to report!

                Hi,
                I can reproduce my issue 100% times.
                I have just unworn my watch from my wrist, altitude was 520m, 1min after, 530m.
                And when put watch on my wrist ragain, 30s only after and altitude id 520m again.
                All that on watch mode.

                Should I open à ticket ?

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
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                  @Mff73 Hey hi! !!!

                  Can you shake it? It should change then as well and that is a pressure sensor issue.

                  I just now did the test with running and my Alti changed 1m only and that was due to GPS alti.
                  Take a Look:

                  0_1533061538328_Screen Shot 2018-07-31 at 21.25.16.png

                  This is a 5m pause.

                  0_1533061580238_Screen Shot 2018-07-31 at 21.25.46.png

                  IMHO it looks like a faulty sensor or the sensor got dirty etc.

                  I had my dad watch with the same issue. These are the tests I did:

                  • I shaked it and changed alti.
                  • Make sure you shake it in a way that you “bang” the pressure sensor grill on your palm. That should shake the sensor vertically and change the altitude.
                  • Temperature as only it self should not matter.

                  But there is a solution as well.

                  Hot water at ~35 and:

                  • Leave it in a glass or have it running constantly on the pressure sensor grill under the tap.
                  • Flush again
                  • Very soft toothbrush if there is debrys.

                  If the above do not help then please ask support.

                  PS. If you are leaving in a humid area that affects even more a ‘dirty sensor’

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                  • Mff73M Offline
                    Mff73
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                    Thanks for tips.
                    Shake this evening and no effet, but I am waiting for after shower revival 🙂
                    Yes, another symptôme, after shower, or hand in water, altitude decrease by around 80/90m, and stay constant during more than 2 hours.
                    0_1533066196388_IMG_20180731_214219.jpg

                    Will try thé warm water and see.

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                      @Mff73 the water gets in? Then its normal.

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                      • Mff73M Offline
                        Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                        Yes, but 2 hours to get out 😞
                        If I put my old ambit 1 in water and Shake it, I retreive good altitude in à couple seconds.
                        With my SSU, now, whatever I do, I have to wait.
                        For now, watch is in warm water. Let see.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
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                          @Mff73 oh. Something is funky. Mine comes back at about 30m Max after poool swimming 1hour. Both s9 and ssu. From what you say looks kapot.

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                          • Mff73M Offline
                            Mff73
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                            Hi folks,

                            My ticket is on the way
                            0_1533287340283_163309fc-25d4-4846-9d02-5accf241fee6-image.png
                            Let’s wait and see, I will let you know 😉

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                            • valdis830V Offline
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                              Temperature affects, but I think not so much. Around 0.6 m for each degree ??

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                              • Mff73M Offline
                                Mff73 @valdis830
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                                @valdis830
                                I think the same, but, it is the only parameter that I think is modifiés when I just put my finger behind thé watch.
                                No news from support for now. 🤔

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                                • Mff73M Offline
                                  Mff73
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                                  Support answers me to restart watch and let it on table for a day (for électrostatic reason) and if nothing better, send it to Finland.

                                  My SSU is on the way to Finland 😁
                                  Wait and see : repair/replacement or maybe they will find nothing 😲

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                                  • Mff73M Offline
                                    Mff73
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                                    No news from Finland, but since then, I re use my Ambit 1, and Altitude doesn’t change without any reason, and after shower, just shake the watch to make water out sensor, and altitude becomes correct (more than two hour with SSU).
                                    I wait eagerly my spartan to come back to see how it works 🙂

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                      @Mff73 try blowing gently air in the spartan. It takes then 1minutes.

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                                      • Mff73M Offline
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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                        Will try as soon as my SSU come back from Finland 😁

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                                        • Mff73M Offline
                                          Mff73
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                                          Hi, Suunto receive my watch, let’s wait 7 days from now :), but UPS said that it has been delivered on monday, so repair delay is calculated from when Suunto decided to registered the delivery 😞
                                          No matter, i am quite happy with my old Ambit, it is so reliable, just old fashion, no bluetooth, charger is a pain to clip, buttons have some arthritis 🙂 , no fusedalti, but descent/ascent is spot on, and no difference between start/end of move.
                                          Wait and see.

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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                                            I am reading in anxiety in every notification I get from this post. Good morning pal.

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