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    • DMytroD Offline
      DMytro @Guest
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      @mountainChris maybe this will be improved with fw updates.

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      • ? Offline
        A Former User @DMytro
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        @DMytro Hope so. Are there things around the corner in beta SW?

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        • DMytroD Offline
          DMytro @Guest
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          @mountainChris dunno, I’m not a tester.

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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            @mountainChris Unfortunately this will vary on an individual basis. I have very little cadence lock with the Pro even when using poles. I can provide examples if you like.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              @Brad_Olwin yes of course individual. But you are saying, that it is what it is and there won’t be any updates to enhance robustness, better interference filters, … so that is more useable for a certain group of customers?

              Do you have walking (no sport) comparison?

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                A Former User
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                Today just a walk again with both watches. S9 with smart sensor. Again great difference just walking in not cold weather. OHR not usable. OHR was not direct cadence lock all the time. It was in between cadence and real HR. At the end I stood 2 min and couldn’t believe what a saw. Also with no walking motion big gap. No change within 2 min! See picture after 2min standing. It seems that there is a big overlay or watch is lagging behind and waiting to get another trigger and until then it is just guessing… more and more believe higher intensity maybe better than lower. Also changed watch positions with almost no effect.

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                Additionally I found this.
                https://www.correrunamaraton.com/en/suunto-9-peak-pro-opinion-initial/
                „The pulse sensor is also new. Or new by half, because the sensor changes slightly with respect to the previous one (it is now proprietary to Suunto), but the algorithm continues to be that of LifeQ. At least for the time being, because the forecast is that there Suunto will also take over.“

                Can this be confirmed? Please Suunto take over 🙏😀

                @isazi @Brad_Olwin Sure your pre-release not production versions didn’t have already a draft of new Suuntos own algo?

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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                  @mountainChris Not necessarily no improvement but my walking and your walking experiences are very different. Yes, I have walking but not sure a belt to compare to, I would have S9Baro or S9Peak compared to S9PPro

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  • herlasH Offline
                    herlas Silver Members
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                    I’ve been getting real bad OHR readings with S9PP over my first two runs thus far. See attached images of two easy runs for me, where real effort has been at HR Z1 mostly.

                    Circle in yellow is the time it’s been reading close to my effort, you can see OHR real high with wrong reading most of the run, for the second image that big drop is because I took the watch off and put it back on. Also second image is with today’s software update applied.

                    I have slim wrist but I’m using the watch with the same fit I used S9P which only during cold day runs would’ve given me such bad readings, which is not this case.

                    I’ll keep trying to find my sweet spot for S9PP OHR I guess 🙂

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                      A Former User @herlas
                      last edited by A Former User

                      @herlas Interesting, seems to be a difference to S9P from your experience. If you are running cadence 160-180, it also looks like cadence lock. Do you? Such readings I never had with running flat with S9P. Only bad hiking. Soon time for the first S9PP run.

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                      • Mff73M Offline
                        Mff73
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                        What to think about this one?
                        TrailRunning session (almost flat), S9PP OHR, compared to SmartSensor linked to Locus on phone.
                        No tattoos, no that much hairs, not to much tighten.
                        Checked a few time with fingeronthewrist sensor to be sure, 😉
                        Still not reliable yet for me. I don’t want to doubt each time. 😒
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                        Wife : S9PP
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                          A Former User @Mff73
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                          @Mff73 if I were Suunto I would deactivate OHR for sports as long as it is like this for many of us. To much bad news imo. Also bad timing with Coros next level looking OHR…

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                            dulko79 @Mff73
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                            @Mff73 Try switching arms if it helps or change watch position above wrist bone. Maybe ohr sensor will be tweaked thru updates.

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                              el2thek Bronze Member @Guest
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                              @mountainChris said in HR comparison:

                              @Mff73 if I were Suunto I would deactivate OHR for sports as long as it is like this for many of us. To much bad news imo. Also bad timing with Coros next level looking OHR…

                              https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/11/coros-apex-2-vs-apex-2-pro-in-depth-review.html

                              The Apex2 and 2 pro are also not flawless.

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                                A Former User @el2thek
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                                @el2thek I personally think or hope both watches will do good with SW improvements. If you’re Suunto fan, change is no option 😉

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                                • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                  Dušan Ković @el2thek
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                                  @el2thek

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                                  Suunto 5 Peak Pro (screenshot from Coros review)

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                                    dulko79 @Dušan Ković
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                                    @Dušan-Ković I think it was said among comments it was a typo.

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                                    • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                      Dušan Ković @dulko79
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                                      @dulko79 I just saw image and noticed S5PP…

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                                      • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                        Dušan Ković
                                        last edited by Dušan Ković

                                        Just a small comparison. I usually use Verity Sense as HR monitor for all activities, but today I wanted to try S9PP internal HR monitor. And it works bad…

                                        Some Verity sense examples:
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                                        S9PP:

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                                        Hr is going allover the place. On Verity Sense you can make out all spikes. It blends individual spikes into single chunks.

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                                        • freeheelerF Offline
                                          freeheeler @Dušan Ković
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                                          @Dušan-Ković
                                          are these direct comparison? it doesn’t look like.

                                          living sideways

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                                          • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                            Dušan Ković @freeheeler
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                                            @freeheeler Nope, different sessions, but S9PP graph is a lot noisier

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