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    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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      @mountainChris Unfortunately this will vary on an individual basis. I have very little cadence lock with the Pro even when using poles. I can provide examples if you like.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        A Former User @Brad_Olwin
        last edited by A Former User

        @Brad_Olwin yes of course individual. But you are saying, that it is what it is and there won’t be any updates to enhance robustness, better interference filters, … so that is more useable for a certain group of customers?

        Do you have walking (no sport) comparison?

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          A Former User
          last edited by A Former User

          Today just a walk again with both watches. S9 with smart sensor. Again great difference just walking in not cold weather. OHR not usable. OHR was not direct cadence lock all the time. It was in between cadence and real HR. At the end I stood 2 min and couldn’t believe what a saw. Also with no walking motion big gap. No change within 2 min! See picture after 2min standing. It seems that there is a big overlay or watch is lagging behind and waiting to get another trigger and until then it is just guessing… more and more believe higher intensity maybe better than lower. Also changed watch positions with almost no effect.

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          Additionally I found this.
          https://www.correrunamaraton.com/en/suunto-9-peak-pro-opinion-initial/
          „The pulse sensor is also new. Or new by half, because the sensor changes slightly with respect to the previous one (it is now proprietary to Suunto), but the algorithm continues to be that of LifeQ. At least for the time being, because the forecast is that there Suunto will also take over.“

          Can this be confirmed? Please Suunto take over 🙏😀

          @isazi @Brad_Olwin Sure your pre-release not production versions didn’t have already a draft of new Suuntos own algo?

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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            @mountainChris Not necessarily no improvement but my walking and your walking experiences are very different. Yes, I have walking but not sure a belt to compare to, I would have S9Baro or S9Peak compared to S9PPro

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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            • herlasH Offline
              herlas Silver Members
              last edited by herlas

              I’ve been getting real bad OHR readings with S9PP over my first two runs thus far. See attached images of two easy runs for me, where real effort has been at HR Z1 mostly.

              Circle in yellow is the time it’s been reading close to my effort, you can see OHR real high with wrong reading most of the run, for the second image that big drop is because I took the watch off and put it back on. Also second image is with today’s software update applied.

              I have slim wrist but I’m using the watch with the same fit I used S9P which only during cold day runs would’ve given me such bad readings, which is not this case.

              I’ll keep trying to find my sweet spot for S9PP OHR I guess 🙂

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              SRS Ti
              A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
              Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                A Former User @herlas
                last edited by A Former User

                @herlas Interesting, seems to be a difference to S9P from your experience. If you are running cadence 160-180, it also looks like cadence lock. Do you? Such readings I never had with running flat with S9P. Only bad hiking. Soon time for the first S9PP run.

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                • Mff73M Offline
                  Mff73
                  last edited by

                  What to think about this one?
                  TrailRunning session (almost flat), S9PP OHR, compared to SmartSensor linked to Locus on phone.
                  No tattoos, no that much hairs, not to much tighten.
                  Checked a few time with fingeronthewrist sensor to be sure, 😉
                  Still not reliable yet for me. I don’t want to doubt each time. 😒
                  Screenshot_20221103-180329_Chrome.jpg

                  Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                  Suunto Vertical all black
                  Wife : S9PP
                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                    A Former User @Mff73
                    last edited by A Former User

                    @Mff73 if I were Suunto I would deactivate OHR for sports as long as it is like this for many of us. To much bad news imo. Also bad timing with Coros next level looking OHR…

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                      dulko79 @Mff73
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                      @Mff73 Try switching arms if it helps or change watch position above wrist bone. Maybe ohr sensor will be tweaked thru updates.

                      App: beta
                      Phone: Iphone
                      iOS

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                        el2thek Bronze Member @Guest
                        last edited by

                        @mountainChris said in HR comparison:

                        @Mff73 if I were Suunto I would deactivate OHR for sports as long as it is like this for many of us. To much bad news imo. Also bad timing with Coros next level looking OHR…

                        https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/11/coros-apex-2-vs-apex-2-pro-in-depth-review.html

                        The Apex2 and 2 pro are also not flawless.

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                          A Former User @el2thek
                          last edited by

                          @el2thek I personally think or hope both watches will do good with SW improvements. If you’re Suunto fan, change is no option 😉

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                          • Dušan KovićD Offline
                            Dušan Ković @el2thek
                            last edited by

                            @el2thek

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                            Suunto 5 Peak Pro (screenshot from Coros review)

                            SR
                            SA latest beta
                            Polar Verity Sense
                            Pixel 6

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                              dulko79 @Dušan Ković
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                              @Dušan-Ković I think it was said among comments it was a typo.

                              App: beta
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                              • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                Dušan Ković @dulko79
                                last edited by

                                @dulko79 I just saw image and noticed S5PP…

                                SR
                                SA latest beta
                                Polar Verity Sense
                                Pixel 6

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                                • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                  Dušan Ković
                                  last edited by Dušan Ković

                                  Just a small comparison. I usually use Verity Sense as HR monitor for all activities, but today I wanted to try S9PP internal HR monitor. And it works bad…

                                  Some Verity sense examples:
                                  Screenshot_20221103-202802.png

                                  Screenshot_20221103-202732.png

                                  S9PP:

                                  Screenshot_20221103-202644.png

                                  Hr is going allover the place. On Verity Sense you can make out all spikes. It blends individual spikes into single chunks.

                                  SR
                                  SA latest beta
                                  Polar Verity Sense
                                  Pixel 6

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                                  • freeheelerF Offline
                                    freeheeler @Dušan Ković
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dušan-Ković
                                    are these direct comparison? it doesn’t look like.

                                    living sideways

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                                    • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                      Dušan Ković @freeheeler
                                      last edited by

                                      @freeheeler Nope, different sessions, but S9PP graph is a lot noisier

                                      SR
                                      SA latest beta
                                      Polar Verity Sense
                                      Pixel 6

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                                      • isaziI Offline
                                        isazi Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Intervals today, as good as usual, under the rain and with colder temperatures even.

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                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                        • Mff73M Offline
                                          Mff73 @isazi
                                          last edited by

                                          @isazi
                                          Lucky you.

                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                          Suunto Vertical all black
                                          Wife : S9PP
                                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                          • Ivan VasilevI Offline
                                            Ivan Vasilev Bronze Member
                                            last edited by

                                            A quick question to everyone with S9PP OHR experience.
                                            I currently own the original S9B with stainless steel bezel and weight of 81g (by specification). The S9B OHR doesn’t work for me for anything other than slow walking. In case of running the HR simply jumps to extremely high and unrealistic values, regardless of how tight the strap is. I knew this buying the watch, so I’ve always used in combination with external HR strap and I’ve been fine with it. I believe the reason for this behavior is the large and top heavy dimensions of the S9B.
                                            But the S9PP with it’s smaller weight and footprint looks like it could solve these issues. My question is - is there a noticeable difference in OHR accuracy between the steel and titanium S9PP models, since this is the only reason I would justify the price premium between the 2 versions?

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