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    el2thek Bronze Member @Guest
    last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 17:45

    @mountainChris said in HR comparison:

    @Mff73 if I were Suunto I would deactivate OHR for sports as long as it is like this for many of us. To much bad news imo. Also bad timing with Coros next level looking OHR…

    https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/11/coros-apex-2-vs-apex-2-pro-in-depth-review.html

    The Apex2 and 2 pro are also not flawless.

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      A Former User @el2thek
      last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 18:05

      @el2thek I personally think or hope both watches will do good with SW improvements. If you’re Suunto fan, change is no option 😉

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        Dušan Ković @el2thek
        last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 18:48

        @el2thek

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        Suunto 5 Peak Pro (screenshot from Coros review)

        SR
        SA latest beta
        Polar Verity Sense
        Pixel 6

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          dulko79 @Dušan Ković
          last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 18:56

          @Dušan-Ković I think it was said among comments it was a typo.

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            Dušan Ković @dulko79
            last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 18:57

            @dulko79 I just saw image and noticed S5PP…

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              Dušan Ković
              last edited by Dušan Ković 11 Mar 2022, 19:32 3 Nov 2022, 19:31

              Just a small comparison. I usually use Verity Sense as HR monitor for all activities, but today I wanted to try S9PP internal HR monitor. And it works bad…

              Some Verity sense examples:
              Screenshot_20221103-202802.png

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              S9PP:

              Screenshot_20221103-202644.png

              Hr is going allover the place. On Verity Sense you can make out all spikes. It blends individual spikes into single chunks.

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                freeheeler @Dušan Ković
                last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 19:43

                @Dušan-Ković
                are these direct comparison? it doesn’t look like.

                living sideways

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                  Dušan Ković @freeheeler
                  last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 19:49

                  @freeheeler Nope, different sessions, but S9PP graph is a lot noisier

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                    isazi Moderator
                    last edited by 3 Nov 2022, 21:18

                    Intervals today, as good as usual, under the rain and with colder temperatures even.

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                      Mff73 @isazi
                      last edited by 4 Nov 2022, 08:01

                      @isazi
                      Lucky you.

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                      Suunto Vertical all black
                      Wife : S9PP
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                        Ivan Vasilev Bronze Member
                        last edited by 5 Nov 2022, 10:05

                        A quick question to everyone with S9PP OHR experience.
                        I currently own the original S9B with stainless steel bezel and weight of 81g (by specification). The S9B OHR doesn’t work for me for anything other than slow walking. In case of running the HR simply jumps to extremely high and unrealistic values, regardless of how tight the strap is. I knew this buying the watch, so I’ve always used in combination with external HR strap and I’ve been fine with it. I believe the reason for this behavior is the large and top heavy dimensions of the S9B.
                        But the S9PP with it’s smaller weight and footprint looks like it could solve these issues. My question is - is there a noticeable difference in OHR accuracy between the steel and titanium S9PP models, since this is the only reason I would justify the price premium between the 2 versions?

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                          Egika Platinum Member @Ivan Vasilev
                          last edited by 6 Nov 2022, 06:41

                          @Ivan-Vasilev while you are right about the watch weight as a factor for OHR accuracy, the small difference between steel and titanium does not play a significant role.
                          All other factors (skin temp, watch position, armband tightness etc) play a way larger role.

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            Efejota Bronze Member @Ivan Vasilev
                            last edited by 7 Nov 2022, 11:47

                            @Ivan-Vasilev In my case, the OHR os the S9P is simliar to the S9B and I use it with a HR strap. I have discovered recently, howevere, that results are almost perfect if I wear the watch really tight, so it does not move at all when running. I have been checking recently and it seems to work as expected. But I need to get used to wear it so tight, TBH.

                            J

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                              Mff73
                              last edited by 7 Nov 2022, 15:30

                              Other wrist (left) , surely same position, but this time result is good 😉. But what I hate having a watch on left wrist 😔
                              Screenshot_20221107-162817_Chrome.jpg
                              Just a good day or really my normal wrist is less prone to OHR 🤔?
                              If I would have two S9PP to test together, I would have had some answers… 🤣

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                              Wife : S9PP
                              SA: Always the latest beta :)
                              Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                dulko79 @Mff73
                                last edited by 7 Nov 2022, 16:57

                                @Mff73 better blood flow in left hand 😄

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                                  lexterm77 Bronze Member @Mff73
                                  last edited by 7 Nov 2022, 18:44

                                  @Mff73

                                  For me, It works better than s7 s9p or s5p. They show smoother line but this is filled with details.

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                                    Mff73
                                    last edited by 7 Nov 2022, 18:58

                                    Thanks.
                                    In this particular feature (OHR), the problem is to be sure it is working for ourself a’d then t being abl to trust it.
                                    My last run tends to prove (once) the sensor can read my HR while running on left wrist. But for now, I have more bad readings than good ones.
                                    I am maybe not compatible with this technology.

                                    Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                    Suunto Vertical all black
                                    Wife : S9PP
                                    SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                    Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                      v.sacre Silver Members
                                      last edited by 8 Nov 2022, 13:21

                                      For me OHR during running isn’t very accurate.

                                      But I was quite surprised today of its accuracy during an indoor ride.
                                      Zwift HR with Wahoo Tickr belt vs S9PP OHR.

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                                      It is often spot on except during the higher intensity efforts.

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                                        Mff73
                                        last edited by 1 Dec 2022, 15:30

                                        Just for the sake of sharing, here is a comparison with two S9PP and wrist OHR, and SmartSensor.
                                        One S9PP on right wrist, the other on … left one 🙂 Positionned as well as possible.
                                        And chest strap … with activity recorded with SA.

                                        Same heart, Same activity (trail in quite cold temperature), not same wrist… and this time left one was the worst 😞 and right one, not bad in average, but still some short “big” differences).

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                                        In conclusion, i will continue definitively to use a strap as OHR is too much inconstant for me.

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
                                        Wife : S9PP
                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                          herlas Silver Members
                                          last edited by herlas 12 Jan 2022, 18:03 1 Dec 2022, 16:31

                                          In my case, I think I’ve found my sweet spot with S9PP OHR.

                                          For me it struggles with some cadence lock when using it on my strong hand (left) however it performs very decent on my right hand when putting it nearly 2 fingers above wrist bone, even in cold conditions (gloves 🧤 required type of weather), S9PP OHR also follows my HR better in strides peaks, something S9P didn’t,but still far from a belt.

                                          With that said, I train by power when it comes to “quality” workouts, but I do use HR belt for those too for post analysis.

                                          For all other easy running and long running, S9PP OHR performs just fine 🙂

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