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    Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @DMytro
    last edited by 11 Dec 2022, 15:26

    @DMytro I’m sure, it can be tricky. Don’t know how other watches from other manufactures behave. Post workout correction is ok. It’s done on Strava but still missing in SA. My main concern is during the activity, especially for mountain oriented activities where the watch is on hand.

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      inkognito Platinum Member
      last edited by inkognito 12 Nov 2022, 16:28 11 Dec 2022, 16:21

      So, nice solution would be to introduce the option to choose from “FusedAlti” and “GPS only” somewhere in the navigation/elevation settings, right? And make these options accessible during the exercise…
      My main concern why I chose Suunto 9 non-baro instead of Suunto 9 baro was that I’d rather have expectedly less precise elevation metrics than totally wrong values in some cases (rain, after swimming, heavy sweating, strong wind, possible sensor failure, etc)…

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      Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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        Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @inkognito
        last edited by 11 Dec 2022, 16:38

        @inkognito That could be an option to prevent misleading readings from the start.

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          sartoric Moderator @inkognito
          last edited by 11 Dec 2022, 17:21

          @inkognito
          Maybe and maybe not
          Consider that if it’s heavy raining, probably the gps signal is sh***y too ?
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            Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members
            last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 14:28

            Again today, with very strong wind, the baro sensor seem to have failed tragically. For an ascent of about 1300m, the watch reported 5500m! I was standing still, the baro graph along with meters of ascent were going mad. For an outdoor watch, failing to operate properly in not ideal/friendly conditions is bad, espeically when such fetaures are reasons for buying the device at first place.

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              DMytro @Panagiotis Kritikakos
              last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 14:37

              @Panagiotis-Kritikakos but do you know if competition has better results in such conditions?

              I think it would be helpful for users to be able to switch to gps-altitude if the recognize that conditions interfere with baro measurements.

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                Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @DMytro
                last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 15:43

                @DMytro Generally, no I don’t know. If they have similar it doesn’t justify the result. My mate however with Garmin didn’t have such issues today.

                GPS/baro switch has been mentioned before and I think would be helpful.

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                  last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 16:46

                  @Panagiotis-Kritikakos I have had this happen as well. About the only solution is to wear under your shirt sleeve or jacket.

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                    Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 17:30

                    @Brad_Olwin It was under the jacket, but the sleeve was not very tight to the wrist and I had headwind.

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                      freeheeler @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                      last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 17:33

                      @Panagiotis-Kritikakos
                      we’ve had a windy day today, too and I’ve noticed wind effect, too.
                      but it is only a problem when it’s windy (and maybe really heavy rain). but I would always choose the baro sensor position like in peak and pro, over the position on the S9B.
                      it is the better compromise IMO

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                        thanasis Bronze Member @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                        last edited by thanasis 27 Feb 2023, 08:13

                        @Panagiotis-Kritikakos said in Altitude data when running in heavy rain:

                        @DMytro Generally, no I don’t know. If they have similar it doesn’t justify the result. My mate however with Garmin didn’t have such issues today.

                        GPS/baro switch has been mentioned before and I think would be helpful.

                        About the switch , You mean like ambit 3 (alti-baro-automatic )?
                        it would be great but I don’t expect any feature-type amendments to the FW … but

                        @Panagiotis-Kritikakos look at the bright side … you will be adding 5K for the vertical week 🙂

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                          A Former User @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                          last edited by A Former User 27 Feb 2023, 08:24

                          @Panagiotis-Kritikakos said in Altitude data when running in heavy rain:

                          GPS/baro switch has been mentioned before and I think would be helpful.

                          I absolutely vote in favour. It would be nice to only be able to use the GPS in certain circumstances. Yesterday I was running on the plains with bora (wind gusts over 70 km/h) and the barometer went crazy.

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                            Jeffrey Tillack Bronze Member @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                            last edited by 27 Feb 2023, 12:09

                            @Panagiotis-Kritikakos I have an S9B but also use a Garmin Instinct. You can turn off the baro and just use GPS when u want. Nifty feature.

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                              Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @thanasis
                              last edited by 27 Feb 2023, 21:00

                              @thanasis I almost forgot about A3P switch, but couldn’t be changed during the activity. I remember having it always on automatic.
                              Regarding the vertical week, it’s a pitty the activity took place a day before it started 😛

                              @Jeffrey-Tillack You mean on the Garmin device?

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                                Spree Bronze Member @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                                last edited by 28 Feb 2023, 09:42

                                @Panagiotis-Kritikakos If you set the alti/baro to “baro” in Suunto Ambit3 Peak, it does not measure altitude via GPS only; it fixes the altitude and doesn’t change it at all, while interpreting all changes in measured absolute pressure as changes in sea level pressure.

                                What is requested here is rather a way to forget about the barometer altogether and using GPS for altitude (while, probably, not measuring weather at all, since that would also be very wrong)

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                                  isazi Moderator
                                  last edited by 28 Feb 2023, 10:25

                                  It is an interesting idea to have a setting for altitude: baro or GPS. I will forward it to Suunto.

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