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    Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members
    last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 14:28

    Again today, with very strong wind, the baro sensor seem to have failed tragically. For an ascent of about 1300m, the watch reported 5500m! I was standing still, the baro graph along with meters of ascent were going mad. For an outdoor watch, failing to operate properly in not ideal/friendly conditions is bad, espeically when such fetaures are reasons for buying the device at first place.

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      DMytro @Panagiotis Kritikakos
      last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 14:37

      @Panagiotis-Kritikakos but do you know if competition has better results in such conditions?

      I think it would be helpful for users to be able to switch to gps-altitude if the recognize that conditions interfere with baro measurements.

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        Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @DMytro
        last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 15:43

        @DMytro Generally, no I don’t know. If they have similar it doesn’t justify the result. My mate however with Garmin didn’t have such issues today.

        GPS/baro switch has been mentioned before and I think would be helpful.

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Panagiotis Kritikakos
          last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 16:46

          @Panagiotis-Kritikakos I have had this happen as well. About the only solution is to wear under your shirt sleeve or jacket.

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            Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 17:30

            @Brad_Olwin It was under the jacket, but the sleeve was not very tight to the wrist and I had headwind.

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            Garmin eTrex 30x

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              freeheeler @Panagiotis Kritikakos
              last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 17:33

              @Panagiotis-Kritikakos
              we’ve had a windy day today, too and I’ve noticed wind effect, too.
              but it is only a problem when it’s windy (and maybe really heavy rain). but I would always choose the baro sensor position like in peak and pro, over the position on the S9B.
              it is the better compromise IMO

              living sideways

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                thanasis Bronze Member @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                last edited by thanasis 27 Feb 2023, 08:13

                @Panagiotis-Kritikakos said in Altitude data when running in heavy rain:

                @DMytro Generally, no I don’t know. If they have similar it doesn’t justify the result. My mate however with Garmin didn’t have such issues today.

                GPS/baro switch has been mentioned before and I think would be helpful.

                About the switch , You mean like ambit 3 (alti-baro-automatic )?
                it would be great but I don’t expect any feature-type amendments to the FW … but

                @Panagiotis-Kritikakos look at the bright side … you will be adding 5K for the vertical week 🙂

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                  A Former User @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                  last edited by A Former User 27 Feb 2023, 08:24

                  @Panagiotis-Kritikakos said in Altitude data when running in heavy rain:

                  GPS/baro switch has been mentioned before and I think would be helpful.

                  I absolutely vote in favour. It would be nice to only be able to use the GPS in certain circumstances. Yesterday I was running on the plains with bora (wind gusts over 70 km/h) and the barometer went crazy.

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                    Jeffrey Tillack Bronze Member @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                    last edited by 27 Feb 2023, 12:09

                    @Panagiotis-Kritikakos I have an S9B but also use a Garmin Instinct. You can turn off the baro and just use GPS when u want. Nifty feature.

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                      Panagiotis Kritikakos Gold Members @thanasis
                      last edited by 27 Feb 2023, 21:00

                      @thanasis I almost forgot about A3P switch, but couldn’t be changed during the activity. I remember having it always on automatic.
                      Regarding the vertical week, it’s a pitty the activity took place a day before it started 😛

                      @Jeffrey-Tillack You mean on the Garmin device?

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                        Spree Bronze Member @Panagiotis Kritikakos
                        last edited by 28 Feb 2023, 09:42

                        @Panagiotis-Kritikakos If you set the alti/baro to “baro” in Suunto Ambit3 Peak, it does not measure altitude via GPS only; it fixes the altitude and doesn’t change it at all, while interpreting all changes in measured absolute pressure as changes in sea level pressure.

                        What is requested here is rather a way to forget about the barometer altogether and using GPS for altitude (while, probably, not measuring weather at all, since that would also be very wrong)

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                          isazi Moderator
                          last edited by 28 Feb 2023, 10:25

                          It is an interesting idea to have a setting for altitude: baro or GPS. I will forward it to Suunto.

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