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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
    last edited by 19 May 2023, 08:41

    @surfboomerang the specs are on:

    Standby light off
    Some notifications.

    I personally get about 200 notifications per day and that wastes battery. Ideally you wanna limit that via the app etc.

    So the watch as a “watch” with some smart functionality will last as promised and even more.

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      SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
      last edited by 19 May 2023, 08:49

      What happens with the Solar energy when the watch is full charged? Can we overcharge it?

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        surfboomerang @SuperFlo75
        last edited by 19 May 2023, 08:54

        @SuperFlo75 I expect this is handled by the battery management. Like when it’s on a charger.

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          Anton Vanderpoel @zhang965
          last edited by 19 May 2023, 14:38

          @zhang965 the display is turning black after one minut not using the watch i put the watch in the sun not wearing

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            deserthike20 Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
            last edited by 19 May 2023, 22:46

            @SuperFlo75 Over in the Suunto Telegram group its been mentioned that the watch will only solar charge when its below 94% to prevent battery overcharging.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @deserthike20
              last edited by 20 May 2023, 06:13

              @deserthike20 that is not correct I think in the lastest firmware. Not it will charge. You can test this via the widget.

              Solar should stop at 99%

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                surfboomerang
                last edited by surfboomerang 20 May 2023, 07:16

                Is the some kind of scale on the solar history bars?

                I noticed today that 2 10min bars were almost full. Once a third appeared, with a slightly higher value than the previous ones, the previous two changed to half full.

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                  DMytro
                  last edited by 20 May 2023, 07:51

                  I have a question too. Afaik each charging cycle takes a toll on the battery health, even more so if the charging cycle is incomplete. Has it been investigated, how solar charging impacts battery health long term. Or has there been any hw changes implemented to meditate that, e.g. use solar power not to change but to directly power the watch s.t. the battery isn’t used and so it’s durability isn’t impacted.

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                    freeheeler @DMytro
                    last edited by 20 May 2023, 10:22

                    @DMytro
                    I will let you know in 4-5 years 😉
                    no, kidding!
                    I guess Suunto did their homework. compared to charging phones we have way less cycles, hence I don’t worry too much

                    living sideways

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                      DMytro @freeheeler
                      last edited by 20 May 2023, 10:39

                      @freeheeler with non-solar watches, sure. But if charging cycle is triggered every time the watch ‘sees’ the sun, you probably have multiple charging cycles a day. And I wonder how healthy it is in the long run. In other words, would the watch loose 20% of its original capacity already after a year instead of 2-3 year with non-solar watches.

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                        freeheeler @DMytro
                        last edited by 20 May 2023, 10:52

                        @DMytro
                        I understood that a charging cycle corresponds to 1 full charge, not every single time you point the watch to the sun… but of course I don’t know details. I just assume that all cycles could be reached within a day or two

                        living sideways

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                          DMytro @freeheeler
                          last edited by 20 May 2023, 10:58

                          @freeheeler well, I’m no expert either - maybe someone in the forum knows more and can comment. But to me it seems that the following holds: 1 small charge via solar, e.g. increase by 5% (btw charging in the sun prob means that the watch is at least warm and charging warm battery is also not ideal afaik) is not as bad for the battery health as charge from 0 to full, but 20 such charges by 5% is worse than one charge from 0 to 100%, although I don’t know by how much.

                          I hope this isn’t perceived as criticism, I’m just curious.

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                            freeheeler @DMytro
                            last edited by 20 May 2023, 11:22

                            @DMytro
                            @Egika once explained it well to me in a pm… I stopped worrying that moment 😉 👍

                            living sideways

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                              deserthike20 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 20 May 2023, 15:15

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos That’s good to hear. Charging to 99% is probably what most people would expect as normal behavior.

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                                Highlands @DMytro
                                last edited by 20 May 2023, 18:38

                                @DMytro I couldn’t be less bothered about the battery of my watches. They have pretty long lifespan and by the time their deterioration starts worrying me, I guess I’ll have changed the watches. 4-5 years will be without any problems.

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                                  mikeorbreak @freeheeler
                                  last edited by 20 May 2023, 19:16

                                  @freeheeler said in solar charging:

                                  @DMytro
                                  @Egika once explained it well to me in a pm… I stopped worrying that moment 😉 👍

                                  Do you want to tell us? With permission of @Egika of course…

                                  F 1 Reply Last reply 20 May 2023, 19:20 Reply Quote 1
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                                    freeheeler @mikeorbreak
                                    last edited by freeheeler 20 May 2023, 19:20

                                    @mikeorbreak
                                    as said before, long story short (what I recall): don’t worry, it takes long for watches to reach charging cycles 🙂

                                    living sideways

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                                      surfboomerang
                                      last edited by 21 May 2023, 05:55

                                      The solar widget confuses me a little bit.
                                      I had an office day on Friday with probably 1 hour of sun that day. On Saturday I had a 3 hour windsurf session with probably 5 hours of sun, but the graph doesn’t seem to show that.

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                                        wotus Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                                        last edited by 21 May 2023, 07:58

                                        @surfboomerang Could it be that the graph shows the relative energy balance, on Saturday the collected and consumed energy during windsurfing were almost equal, but on Friday more energy was collected than consumed?

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                                          vlado
                                          last edited by 21 May 2023, 13:34

                                          I left it this morning on clear sun for some 3 hours, battery was at 14% at the begining and after those 3 hours it was still on 14%, it did not raise…but that was 8 hours ago and it is still on 14. My question is…when it is being solar charged does the percentage raise or it just stays on that initial percentage for a lot longer than when it did not had solar charge?

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