Smart wake up alarm

[peakymatt]

It’d be great if the watch could help with a good wake up, by taking it’s best guess at where the user is in a sleep cycle and at the right time sound/vibrate a very gentle alarm, within say 20 mins of a defined wake up time (with a harsher alarm at that time to ensure wake up).
While it feels like every minutes sleep helps, waking up feels much better if it’s at the right time in the cycle.
I’m wearing a Suunto 9 peak.
I know it can’t reliably and accurately measure sleep cycle, but it must be able to make a stab at this?
I used to have a phone app that aimed for this, just by sounding a really gentle alarm a bit before the actual alarm time, just in case I was near enough conscious to hear it and wake up before heading into deep sleep again to be broken by the real alarm.
The standard watch alarm is pretty harsh, it’d be great to have alternatives, including one that slowly ramps up sound and vibration.

[Egika]

I like this idea.
Have just shared it to Suunto product managers to evaluate

[Mff73]

@Egika
Like it also, and knowing noone at suunto, I I just upvote

[A Former User]

@peakymatt said in Smart wake up alarm:

It’d be great if the watch could help with a good wake up, by taking it’s best guess at where the user is in a sleep cycle and at the right time sound/vibrate a very gentle alarm, within say 20 mins of a defined wake up time (with a harsher alarm at that time to ensure wake up).
While it feels like every minutes sleep helps, waking up feels much better if it’s at the right time in the cycle.
I’m wearing a Suunto 9 peak.
I know it can’t reliably and accurately measure sleep cycle, but it must be able to make a stab at this?
I used to have a phone app that aimed for this, just by sounding a really gentle alarm a bit before the actual alarm time, just in case I was near enough conscious to hear it and wake up before heading into deep sleep again to be broken by the real alarm.
The standard watch alarm is pretty harsh, it’d be great to have alternatives, including one that slowly ramps up sound and vibration.

It’s something that I would like to see also.
In the same “sleep” category amazfit is apparently using AI for sleep…
https://www.amazfit.com/blogs/news/zepp-health-launches-amazfit-balance-with-ai-empowered-features-for-the-ultimate-in-balanced-living

How well it works…idk

[wakarimasen]

@peakymatt said in Smart wake up alarm:

It’d be great if the watch could help with a good wake up, by taking it’s best guess at where the user is in a sleep cycle and at the right time sound/vibrate a very gentle alarm, within say 20 mins of a defined wake up time (with a harsher alarm at that time to ensure wake up).
While it feels like every minutes sleep helps, waking up feels much better if it’s at the right time in the cycle.
I’m wearing a Suunto 9 peak.
I know it can’t reliably and accurately measure sleep cycle, but it must be able to make a stab at this?
I used to have a phone app that aimed for this, just by sounding a really gentle alarm a bit before the actual alarm time, just in case I was near enough conscious to hear it and wake up before heading into deep sleep again to be broken by the real alarm.
The standard watch alarm is pretty harsh, it’d be great to have alternatives, including one that slowly ramps up sound and vibration.

I think this is a Fitbit thing, and would be a great addition.

[EzioAuditore]

@wakarimasen I remember Jawbone having it and the MS Band 2 too. I cannot believe how good it worked for me on both these devices. There was time I was wearing the Jawbone UP as fitness band (no screen, minimal design, very lightweight for: steps, resting HR and oh so good sleep analysis) and the almighty Ambit 2 as true sports beast.
This would be very cool addition to the Suunto ecosystem and something to brag about (especially now that FB is being replaced it might be easier). I think neither Garmin has something similar (they used to have it I think on the vivosmart band or what was it called).

[Jamie BG]

@peakymatt
It could make a stab at it, but its just as likely to get it wrong as right.
The idea about a smart alarm is to wake you in a light sleep cycle rather than a REM cycle (deep is very unlikely that late in a sleep cycle). - however its extremely difficult for a commercial EEG device and visual cues to differentiate between light and rem - as a watch is only basing this on movement (wrist) and blood flow - its really is impossible for it to even get a good estimate between light & rem. Thus there is no point to a smart alarm - as it really can’t tell if its light or rem.

So you might as well just set an alarm systm up to replicate what you want i.e. a gentle alarm 20 mins before wake time with a harsh alarm on the time. Considering that suunto doesn’t have any speakers that would have to be done via beeps and or vibration - not sure how practical that is either - but maybe vibration only for pre alarm and then vibration and beep at alarm itme…

And replicate on phone.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

While gentle vibrations and S9PP don’t go well together, it may be a feature bold enough to change the vibrations altogether. And besides - this is a nice idea and would make me want to use the alarm in the watch instead of a phone.