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    • isaziI Online
      isazi Moderator @sashaklepikov
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      @sashaklepikov the Race does not need to set the usual sleeping time (only auto DND). In fact, it can detect sleep at any time (including naps). Old Suunto watches using the FirstBeat algorithms needed that.

      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

      Blog: isazi's home

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      • ChrisAC Offline
        ChrisA Platinum Member @sashaklepikov
        last edited by

        @sashaklepikov great! 👍😃 - maybe it works without setting the HRs like I do. I did it this way, because it worked for me with other Suunto watches.

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        • sashaklepikovS Offline
          sashaklepikov Bronze Member @isazi
          last edited by

          @isazi ah, okay, maybe user guide will be updated then (and this section was blindly copied from previous watches)

          Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
          Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
          Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
          Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
          Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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            wakarimasen Silver Members @isazi
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            @isazi Will this functionality be transferred to the 9PP with the forthcoming SW update?

            Suunto Race Titanium
            Suunto Ambit3 Peak
            Polar H10
            Polar OH1

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              Egika Platinum Member @wakarimasen
              last edited by

              @wakarimasen very likely

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              Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
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                wakarimasen Silver Members
                last edited by

                Then I’m looking forward to it!

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                Suunto Ambit3 Peak
                Polar H10
                Polar OH1

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                • isaziI Online
                  isazi Moderator @wakarimasen
                  last edited by

                  @wakarimasen not sure, sleep algorithms will change (no more firstbeat) but naps are (from what was revealed by reviewers) only for Race.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                  • sashaklepikovS Offline
                    sashaklepikov Bronze Member
                    last edited by

                    I’m probably already nitpicking but today sleep was tracked one hour less due to time change from summer time 🤔

                    What is more interesting - a nap was tracked very well yesterday. Even better than I expected

                    Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
                    Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
                    Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
                    Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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                    • helgonet12H Offline
                      helgonet12 @isazi
                      last edited by

                      @isazi why is it only for race and not for vertical? Is it because of hardware differences or by decision?

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                      • Mads Hintz-MadsenM Offline
                        Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
                        last edited by

                        @sashaklepikov Are you sure? My Race added an extra hour to my sleep time due to the time change. It seems correct for me.

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                          sashaklepikov Bronze Member @Mads Hintz-Madsen
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                          @Mads-Hintz-Madsen it looks like a presentation issue at one place.

                          Here you can see that sum of awake, rem, light and deep is correct — 7h 26min

                          But in the title it is 6:30h (it is even not the difference between 07:31 and 01:06).

                          And the same data on the watch — correct breakdown and incorrect “title”

                          Screenshot_20231029-085815.png

                          Garmin Forerunner 210 Black (ret.)
                          Suunto Ambit3 Peak Black (gave it to my father)
                          Suunto 9 Peak Granite Blue Titanium (gave it to a runner in our running chat)
                          Suunto 9 Peak Pro Titanium Sand (waiting on the shelf)
                          Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal (current)

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                          • Mads Hintz-MadsenM Offline
                            Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
                            last edited by

                            @sashaklepikov That’s interesting. As you can see below then an additional 1hour has been added to the total sleep time in the title.

                            One difference between you and me is that I fell asleep before midnight and you after midnight. Maybe Suunto hasn’t taken properly into account (when handling the summer/winter time transition) that someone might fall asleep after midnight.

                            Screenshot_20231029-091032.png

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                            • isaziI Online
                              isazi Moderator @helgonet12
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                              @helgonet12 various reasons, at least for now it will be like this (it’s software, so this may change in the future)

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                              • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Online
                                Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members
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                                Second night with the Race. First night sleep was tracked very well. This night sleep wasn’t track at all, same settings.

                                Suunto Ambit 3
                                Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                Suunto Race Ti

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                                  Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                                  @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud sorry, this was a mistake by me. Sleep was tracked very well even this night. I hadn’t given the watch time to register that I was out of bed. 😂

                                  Suunto Ambit 3
                                  Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                  Suunto Race Ti

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                                    isazi Moderator @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                                    @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud the watch even adjusts the sleep a while after waking up (after being sure you’re up for good)

                                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                    Blog: isazi's home

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                                    • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Online
                                      Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @isazi
                                      last edited by

                                      @isazi Yes, realized that. Very impressed by the sleep tracking so far.

                                      Suunto Ambit 3
                                      Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                      Suunto Race Ti

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                                      • Pier Luigi CingolaniP Offline
                                        Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
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                                        Is there any information in what classifies a “nap” in the watch? Definitely had few naps and only tracked a really long one.

                                        Additionally, am I the only one with quite inaccurate sleep tracking? I have to say, I am wearing my watch quite loosely, as it would otherwise bother me, but HR and HRV are really close to what my previous Garmin was tracking so I’d assume they are correct. However, tonight I went to bed as 11.30, SR said I was asleep by 1 (it was definitely before that, but that doesn’t seems a huge error tbh) but then tracked 3hrs as “awake”, when I clearly wasn’t.

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                                          ChrisA Platinum Member @Pier Luigi Cingolani
                                          last edited by ChrisA

                                          @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani (I am maybe repeating myself 😅) but what have you set as your resting HR on the watch?

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                                          • Pier Luigi CingolaniP Offline
                                            Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @ChrisA
                                            last edited by

                                            @ChrisA i Just read your post, I have set it up to the one I have when sleeping 😅. So you are saying it should be the daily resting HR?

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