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Sleep tracking bug ?

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    isazi Moderator @wakarimasen
    last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 04:53

    @wakarimasen not sure, sleep algorithms will change (no more firstbeat) but naps are (from what was revealed by reviewers) only for Race.

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      sashaklepikov Bronze Member
      last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 06:03

      I’m probably already nitpicking but today sleep was tracked one hour less due to time change from summer time 🤔

      What is more interesting - a nap was tracked very well yesterday. Even better than I expected

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        helgonet12 @isazi
        last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 06:27

        @isazi why is it only for race and not for vertical? Is it because of hardware differences or by decision?

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          Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
          last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 06:30

          @sashaklepikov Are you sure? My Race added an extra hour to my sleep time due to the time change. It seems correct for me.

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            sashaklepikov Bronze Member @Mads Hintz-Madsen
            last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:03

            @Mads-Hintz-Madsen it looks like a presentation issue at one place.

            Here you can see that sum of awake, rem, light and deep is correct — 7h 26min

            But in the title it is 6:30h (it is even not the difference between 07:31 and 01:06).

            And the same data on the watch — correct breakdown and incorrect “title”

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              Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
              last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:16

              @sashaklepikov That’s interesting. As you can see below then an additional 1hour has been added to the total sleep time in the title.

              One difference between you and me is that I fell asleep before midnight and you after midnight. Maybe Suunto hasn’t taken properly into account (when handling the summer/winter time transition) that someone might fall asleep after midnight.

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                isazi Moderator @helgonet12
                last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:22

                @helgonet12 various reasons, at least for now it will be like this (it’s software, so this may change in the future)

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                Blog: isazi's home

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                  Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members
                  last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:25

                  Second night with the Race. First night sleep was tracked very well. This night sleep wasn’t track at all, same settings.

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                    Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                    last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:40

                    @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud sorry, this was a mistake by me. Sleep was tracked very well even this night. I hadn’t given the watch time to register that I was out of bed. 😂

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                      isazi Moderator @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                      last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:46

                      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud the watch even adjusts the sleep a while after waking up (after being sure you’re up for good)

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                      Blog: isazi's home

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                        Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @isazi
                        last edited by 29 Oct 2023, 07:54

                        @isazi Yes, realized that. Very impressed by the sleep tracking so far.

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                          Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
                          last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 14:28

                          Is there any information in what classifies a “nap” in the watch? Definitely had few naps and only tracked a really long one.

                          Additionally, am I the only one with quite inaccurate sleep tracking? I have to say, I am wearing my watch quite loosely, as it would otherwise bother me, but HR and HRV are really close to what my previous Garmin was tracking so I’d assume they are correct. However, tonight I went to bed as 11.30, SR said I was asleep by 1 (it was definitely before that, but that doesn’t seems a huge error tbh) but then tracked 3hrs as “awake”, when I clearly wasn’t.

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                            ChrisA Platinum Member @Pier Luigi Cingolani
                            last edited by ChrisA 31 Oct 2023, 18:14

                            @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani (I am maybe repeating myself 😅) but what have you set as your resting HR on the watch?

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                              Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @ChrisA
                              last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 19:00

                              @ChrisA i Just read your post, I have set it up to the one I have when sleeping 😅. So you are saying it should be the daily resting HR?

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                                ChrisA Platinum Member @Pier Luigi Cingolani
                                last edited by 31 Oct 2023, 21:06

                                @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani yes for me sleep is very accurate, when I set the rest HR in the personal settings on the watch to about 9-10 neats higher than my average nightly resting HR.

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                                  David l @ChrisA
                                  last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 06:54

                                  @ChrisA how do you change that? My sleep is having me wake up 40mins earlier than I am (plus HRV is so low!)
                                  Thanks in advance!

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @David l
                                    last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 07:27

                                    @David-Lown said in Sleep tracking bug ?:

                                    @ChrisA how do you change that? My sleep is having me wake up 40mins earlier than I am (plus HRV is so low!)
                                    Thanks in advance!

                                    Settings -> General -> Personal -> Rest HR
                                    And yes, Rest HR is not minimum HR

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                                      macdav Bronze Member @Egika
                                      last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 09:07

                                      What is the definition of “weak up”? Is it correct, it is not summed up to the total time?
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                                        wmichi @Egika
                                        last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 10:49

                                        @Egika Shouldn‘t the watch be capable of finding the resting HR by itself? We now have real 24/7 HR measurements and the sleep tracking seems to work pretty good now on the SR. It also would be nice if we could track resting HR over time instead of minimum HR, since it‘s the more important metric (as far as I know).

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                                          zhang965 @wmichi
                                          last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 11:33

                                          @wmichi said in Sleep tracking bug ?:

                                          Shouldn‘t the watch be capable of finding the resting HR by itself?

                                          No so far the watch doesn’t ajuster HR

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