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    BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    • Eddy De BackerE Offline
      Eddy De Backer @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

      Run prediction and lactate threshold missing after firmware update. After 4 outdoor runs with native run profile the watch still tells me that i need to do three outdoor runs before the numbers are ready.

      Same here, different runs and walks, HR-zone3 or higher, nothing in the numbers. I did a hard reset again, try again, wait,… 🤞

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      • EgikaE Offline
        Egika Platinum Member @Eddy De Backer
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        @Eddy-De-Backer if you do a hard reset, you will start from 0.
        For me it also took more than exactly 3 runs, but after 5 or so the data showed up.
        With hard resetting it will take longer 😬

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        • Arnaud LclrA Offline
          Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @Eddy De Backer
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          Hello @Eddy-De-Backer
          To my knowledge, Suunto does not share the minimum requirements for obtaining predictions.
          Bit i think it’s important to remember that the number of runs is not enough.
          To make predictions, Suunto needs a certain amount of time and effort.
          For example, the SuuntoPlus Threshold test analyses the last 20 minutes of a 30-minute effort, (to which a warm-up and cool-down should be added).

          After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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          • David lD Offline
            David l @Arnaud Lclr
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            @Arnaud-Lclr said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

            Hello @Eddy-De-Backer
            To my knowledge, Suunto does not share the minimum requirements for obtaining predictions.
            Bit i think it’s important to remember that the number of runs is not enough.
            To make predictions, Suunto needs a certain amount of time and effort.
            For example, the SuuntoPlus Threshold test analyses the last 20 minutes of a 30-minute effort, (to which a warm-up and cool-down should be added).

            Suunto does share the minimum requirements 😉 8d37304b-a960-41e0-9a04-8e9456a1da12-image.jpeg

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            • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
              Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Arnaud Lclr
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              @Arnaud-Lclr I have done way more that what should be needed. I can’t even understand why my old figures are ironed out after the update. Shouldn’t be necessary.

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              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                Brad_Olwin Moderator @David l
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                @David-l Not the minimum. The text states at least so I think more ambiguous.

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                • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                  Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                  @Brad_Olwin I have done 5 runs since the update, but still no run predictions or threshold values. And why do I have to start all over again after the update? It should not be necessary.

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                  • EgikaE Offline
                    Egika Platinum Member @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                    @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                    @Brad_Olwin I have done 5 runs since the update, but still no run predictions or threshold values. And why do I have to start all over again after the update? It should not be necessary.

                    For me it took also more that 3 runs - but after like 5 or 6 the numbers showed up.
                    Noone here including Brad will be able to tell you why the numbers are erased with a firmware update.

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                    • Arnaud LclrA Offline
                      Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @David l
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                      @David-l I think we understand each other 😉

                      If you record 3 runs of 15 minutes at 7min/km, not only will Suunto probably not be able to give you any information, but I hope they won’t because that would be totally crazy.

                      The watch screen or, more importantly, the manual should be more comprehensive.

                      After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                      • NornobodyN Offline
                        Nornobody @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                        @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud You may try the Cooper Test, it would show up right away.

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                        • G Offline
                          GregDi
                          last edited by

                          Aproxymatly 20 runs and no predictions for me !

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                          • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                            Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @GregDi
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                            @GregDi Same for me.

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                              Iceman1 @GregDi
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                              @GregDi same here.

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                                GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Iceman1
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                                @Iceman1 Same here

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                                • wmichiW Offline
                                  wmichi
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                                  My Race is currently downloading 2.30.38. Maybe it’s fixed with this update? 🙂

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                                  • Eddy De BackerE Offline
                                    Eddy De Backer @wmichi
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                                    @wmichi 🤞

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                                    • Mark HooperM Offline
                                      Mark Hooper @GregDi
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                                      @GregDi Same here for me, been bugging me for a while, update did not resolve it.

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                                      • G Offline
                                        GregDi
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                                        Wait 3 runs with the new update 😉

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                                          freddubai @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                                          @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud my 9PP did it within 3 runs after the software update but so far my Suunto Race has not done it after 3 runs…

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                                          • j newbyJ Offline
                                            j newby
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                                            Mine is the same. Had it since the release. 4 runs a week and still no Running time estimates. Or lactate threshold.

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