Software Update 2.30.32

AnonVerticalOwner

@MKPotts Thank you! That’s good to hear. I’ll pass on the message.

TurnberryHai

@AnonVerticalOwner - Sleep tracking is unusable after the SW update, incorrectly showing 2-3 hrs/night on the PP. I switched back to Garmin until this gets fixed.

RaDeck

@TurnberryHai
I have also experienced very ‘delayed’ sleep track since the update. No issues prior to that but now my 7-8 hours night seem delayed by 2-3 hours which results to wrong data. Also the watch used to show a summary of the sleep right after dismissing the alarm, this is not happening ether since the update. Also these shorter recorded night recover my resources way more than prior to the update; my sleep score is also excellent although the overall metrics are far worse. Big difference in the algorithm and definitely not trustworthy imo.
Otherwise the new UI is looking sharp and easier to use! Looking forward to these bug fixes!

AnonVerticalOwner

@TurnberryHai Thanks for the heads up! It’s a shame it was rolled it out to the S9PP before addressing it then. I had hoped the algo changes would be excluded from this update.

Fwiw, Suunto’s been monitoring the SV thread, so here’s to hoping a fix is on its way.

Mauerwegler

@Sam-White said in Software Update 2.30.32:

@AntoniusGaius said in Software Update 2.30.32:

I noticed that they switched buttons when alarm beeps. Upper is now for snooze and lower for stop. Before it was opposite.

Ooof, this has screwed me up all week since the update! I’ll get used to it of course, but this is such an odd decision. I can’t really figure out what would’ve prompted the developers to swap the actions of these two buttons in this use case.

They might have it aligned with how you pause (snooze) and end (dismiss) a training (alarm).

minimark069

My sleep tracking has not been impacted by the latest update I track with my phone (to update apple Health) and the watch for the stats in the app and both match up.

MKPotts

@minimark069
It’s seems very individual given we’re both seeing no change and accurate data and other people are seeing the opposite.
I’m also currently tracking with two devices - an Enduro and the Peak Pro - while I transition from measuring HRV from Garmin to Suunto. My recorded sleep times for the last three nights are:
Enduro 22:09-05:38 & S9PP 22:21-05:38 (it’s the Suunto that’s more accurate in this case)
E22:04-03:59 & S 22:05-03:59
E 22:25-05:48 & S 22:20-05:48

I guess accuracy must be affected by the sleep times set in the watch, resting HR and maybe how much you move while sleeping.
I’ve got my RHR set at 40bpm. Depending on fitness and tiredness, this compares to daytime RHR typically 36-40 and nighttime 32-38.

Mff73

@MKPotts said in Software Update 2.30.32:

It’s seems very individual given we’re both seeing no change and accurate data and other people are seeing the opposite.

and the third case, where, peeple like me, has sometime “looks like accurate data” and sometimes the opposite

For my case, i would bet that watch is seeing my sleeping movements as an awake time (i think i am moving quite a lot).

Александр Даниленко

@MKPotts I tested yesterday S9PP against Huawei Watch Fit:

Screenshot_2023-12-07-11-50-40-51_b14a9358fd6881e7ef1642d19c4cec95.jpg

Screenshot_2023-12-07-11-50-11-35_efaee9233a816a5de5fd5a4cb49356f4.jpg

I would say Huawei feels more accurate here (especially about “Awake” time). Something is wrong with “Awake” on Suunto to me.

Also, to stop sleep tracking with Suunto you have to stand up and make few steps. Huawei seems to be smarter here and doesn’t require you to do that. And that is despite Suunto has more accurate HR sensor and HR data.

minimark069

Just to update

I havent been prompted to stand yet ( i do sit for my job but it would not suprise me if i stand up before it i get to the 2 hour limit)

got my first stand notification today

rooldaa

Hi,

I’ve found another bug related to exercise mode.

Touch screen isn’t longer available in navigation screen. I can swipe between screens and do other things with the touch screen but in navigation screen it doesn’t respond. I can’t swipe up to open the navigation meny and most importantly I cannot double tap on the screen to see an overall track.

That’s sad ️

Mff73

@rooldaa
In performance mode? Did you check custom battery mode settings?

ShailCaesar

This new HRV that has taken away my recovery time, is it also responsible for reduced calorie count per exercise as well?

rooldaa

@Mff73 said in Software Update 2.30.32:

@rooldaa
In performance mode? Did you check custom battery mode settings?

Everything I described happens in custom battery mode with the touch screen enabled. I checked it for different sport profiles cycling, running etc.

I can use the touch screen to swipe between screens but in navigation screen it doesn’t work - neither double tap to get the overview of the track nor swiping up to get navigation settings. Only buttons work.

Mff73

@rooldaa
i checked with my wife’s one, and double tap on navigation screen is working, but it leads to locking screen
And yes, single tap doesn’t lead track overview

The_77

Observations after one night/morning of use

Step Counter is unhinged
Now I get all the vibration complaints - can’t have that on in the workplace

Sleep worked ok though. 10k race tomorrow to test the important bits.

Mario Vogler

I like the new design but the sleep tracking doesn’t work anymore since the update to 2.30.32. I tried to (re-)activate everything in the settings, sleep tracking, hrv and also blood oxygen. Tried also some combinations without success. any suggestions?

A Former User

@Mario-Vogler is 24/7 tracking still on? (I could swear I didn’t turn it off myself, but for whatever reason it wasn’t enabled anymore the other day. Even when you turned everything on under ‘sleep’, sleep detection doesn’t actually work without 24/7 on too)

Elipsus

My watch suddenly stopped tracking HR (the light doesn’t turn on) despite the setting being “HR on wrist” being on, even if I start an activity the light stays off

It worked again once I turned the watch off and on again, but maybe I can send some logs if you tell me how ?

false

Hi! I found some bugs on the latest 9PP software

All custom sport modes, except one, got lost (sick!)
The watch face on the left here doesn’t count week’s total training time.
I had to click on/off on sport apps several times (pre-workout settings) to make this boolean logic work as expected. However, before this, the switched-off app looked selected, and vice versa.
Unable to unpin the widget on the right from the main screen (or it’s not obvious).
The ‘Sleep’ tab in the app (the latest for Android) is totally blank, only with the header. It looks like there is an error. Although I do not track my sleep, it appears incomplete.
Not a bug, but what is the idea of showing this small pace graph after completing any run? From my point of view, it doesn’t provide any analysis or aesthetic value.
On the summary screen, we now have laps, autolaps, intervals (if you had it in the workout). What if you make ‘intervals’ clickable and show interval training specific data (e.g., average pace/power of every sprint)? Currently, the ‘laps’ menu shows your warm-up, cool down, and intervals all together, providing average HR data for each stage. However, if sprints are pretty short, HR doesn’t even have time to raise, making it a not very useful metric when discussing running intervals.
Subjectively, it seems like the battery started draining faster, although my usage pattern for the watch hasn’t changed

To be honest, I’m a bit disappointed with this update. As a user, I would easily trade UI/UX changes for the reliability and stability of the system. As a software engineer, I was surprised by the breaking changes (p.1) and a bunch of minor bugs in typical usage scenarios, which could have been found during QA tests

Cheers!