Software Update 2.30.38 (Race / Vertical / 9 Peak Pro)

Marco Fagiani

@RaDeck same here. Resources flat at 10% from December 1st.

RaDeck

@isazi I can second that having had a flight over 7hrs TZ. I didn’t mind it much though tbh as the data of these days would be somehow ‘bad’ anyways. I also saw that it gives me an average sleep time of the last 6 weeks still very late (it seems to be taking the other TZ I was in for 2 weeks into consideration w. +7 hrs)

isazi

@RaDeck I reported the issue with resources resetting on TZ change to Suunto last week, will share if I know more.

isazi

@RaDeck @Sergei-Ladeishchikov @The_77 did any of you sent logs to Suunto after this happened?

The_77

@isazi unfortunately not no.

Sergei Ladeishchikov

@isazi no, I didn’t send it

mlakis

Don’t know if I dupli/multi report it, but on Vertical, during workout, it seems that the time spent in the next-higher zone is not reported.

The first photo is during the workout, the next one is the workout report after finishing.

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Also I think that the 2’17 for zone1 in the first photo is also false, because the total workout is 47’09 and I don’t remember falling back to zone 1 from 45’52 and onward, also the remaining time cannot add up to 5’07.

A Former User

@mlakis I remember also another user had reported the issue here

RaDeck

@isazi sorry me neither

Wilson75

Sorry to open a new debate about sleep tracking. I noticed that my sleep tracking is wrong with my vertical.
Vertical uses new Suunto algorithm I hope to see an improvement in the next release.

Brad_Olwin

@Wilson7 A couple of things to try are auto DND prior to bed, say 1 h before and 1h after wakeup. Second is use your avg resting HR as HR min on the watch. I started with poor sleep tracking as well but it is very good now.

minimark069

@Brad_Olwin how do you set minimum heart rate on the watch?

pilleus

I have my Vertical now 3 weeks in daily and nightly use.

To have naps recorded I set my sleep time from 00:00 to 23:55 h. I enable DND when I go to bed or take a nap and disable it after I wake up.

I never set any hr value in the watch or in the app.

During the three weeks I had accurate sleep tracking and hrv tracking. I compare it to my Google Nest every day. Only one of these days was different, Vertical showed 1 hour less sleep than the Google Nest.

And one time I forgot to activate DND before a nap and the nap was not recorded.

So far a really satisfying behaviour of the Suunto Vertical.

A Former User

@minimark069 Control panel >> Settings >> General >> Personal >> Rest HR

Elipsus

@Brad_Olwin For clarification : for HR min we use the average of the night ? or average “while resting but not sleeping” ?

mlakis

@Elipsus, I use the second case which works perfect both for sleep tracking and the auto HR zones.

Just the HR when you are sitting comfortably doing nothing and well recovered.

Mff73

there is still lots of rumors of what should be, what must be, or what is just a just a legend, about settings which may influence sleep tracking.
Sometime ago, for the Suunto Vertical, we have been “confirmed” this : resting HR is nowhere in the formula
https://forum.suunto.com/post/133711

wakarimasen

@mlakis said in Software Update 2.30.38 (Race / Vertical / 9 Peak Pro):

@Elipsus, I use the second case which works perfect both for sleep tracking and the auto HR zones.

Just the HR when you are sitting comfortably doing nothing and well recovered.

Got to admit, as the watch is gathering all of this data (assuming it’s being worn 24/7) I would prefer to see a widget showing a graph for the last seven days average heart rate (for this topic) rather than the minimum, which seems of less use.

mlakis

@Mff73, just seen others speculating that resting HR plays some role, but either way, from day one I have no issues with sleep tracking.

@wakarimasen, it’s a bit off topic, but an average HR per 24hr graph is something that depends a lot on what you did each day, and personally, I couldn’t not infer any useful info from it. Whereas average HR during sleep is useful, because you are always sleeping during sleep

Anyway, in the Suunto app, into Training zone-> Sleep, if you select a certain day, you can see the whole HR graph for the day if you haven’t noticed it. There are some “gems” I haven’t discovered yet. For example, I just figured out the other options for the sleep graph in the app. Sleep regularity, wake up resources are great!

Sorry for the long off topic response.

Wilson75

@Brad_Olwin I changed my DND as suggested. it’s already better. thank you . this morning I pressed a button to end the sleep tracking. I will try next time without manipulating the watch.