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    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
      Brad_Olwin Moderator @David l
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      @David-l said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

      @Brad_Olwin said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

      @David-l said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

      Thanks for the comments - I tried the reverse route 3 times in Norway this weekend and on each attempt it didn’t work.

      When can we expect the update? Thanks

      Cannot say when update will come, up to Suunto. But, I have recently tested reverse route and it works flawlessly, not clear on why it does not work in your experience. The TBT will not reverse but route and elevation profile reverse for me.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      • Mff73M Offline
        Mff73 @David l
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        @David-l said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

        Thanks for the comments - I tried the reverse route 3 times in Norway this weekend and on each attempt it didn’t work.

        out of curiousity, what is the criteria to say it doen’t work ? 🤔
        Turn-by-turn warning ? or route display arrows not reversed ? or … ?

        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
        Suunto Vertical all black
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        • David lD Offline
          David l @Mff73
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          @Mff73 said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

          @David-l said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

          Thanks for the comments - I tried the reverse route 3 times in Norway this weekend and on each attempt it didn’t work.

          out of curiousity, what is the criteria to say it doen’t work ? 🤔
          Turn-by-turn warning ? or route display arrows not reversed ? or … ?

          No turn by turn, route arrows not reversed.

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          • enriqueescomsE Offline
            enriqueescoms
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            I understand perfectly what you mean. In my case, with the 9PP, there are also times when those “little whims” get me out of my mind.

            You are right about wasting the screen. Frequently the size of the texts is not optimized and they look ridiculously small. Which, for practical purposes (in motion), makes the information displayed useless. @Brad_Olwin defends that he sees them perfectly, but he will understand what we say. This becomes especially palpable when following structured training. In which, in addition, the lack of a repetition counter means that you practically have to train blind. Without mentioning the absence of the threshold warning.

            On the other hand, I also miss the possibility of configuring screens with one or two unique fields. And I agree with you that the solution of using Big Numbers is not a solution at all.

            Another thing that I don’t like how it works, and that you haven’t mentioned, is the “turn by turn” which, given the way in which the information is offered, makes it absurd and useless.

            And finally, the CTL synchronization problems, and so on, I can’t even tell you how annoying it is.

            Then in the application there are things that I dislike, such as a certain lack of logic in the order of data presentation and other small issues. Although little by little I see progress.

            Having said all this, and what really bothers me, at the moment I am still compensated by the quality of the watch itself as an object and the minimalist approach. So I will continue to give my vote of confidence to Suunto.

            Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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            • zhang965Z Offline
              zhang965 @enriqueescoms
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              @enriqueescoms said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

              but he will understand what we say.

              No never ever

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                Matúš Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
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                @enriqueescoms said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

                I understand perfectly what you mean. In my case, with the 9PP, there are also times when those “little whims” get me out of my mind.

                Me too…😵

                You are right about wasting the screen. Frequently the size of the texts is not optimized and they look ridiculously small.

                What about the size of the time text during any activity?🕵🕵

                Having said all this, and what really bothers me, at the moment I am still compensated by the quality of the watch itself as an object and the minimalist approach. So I will continue to give my vote of confidence to Suunto.

                🤞🤞

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                Suunto Spartan Sport

                #swatt

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @enriqueescoms
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                  @enriqueescoms I agree with text size in S+ apps, it is too small but for watch screens I am OK. Vibration and counter in intervals I and many other testers have requested, hopefully planned.
                  I do not know why TSS and CTL is off by one day for some. I have a watch running production firmware and it works for me but is fixed for all in the next update.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                    @Brad_Olwin when the next Update will come? All say the new Update, the new Update. But noone have actually a new update 😜

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                    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                      Łukasz Szmigiel
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                      I must be the only one who feels that the size of data fields is too large on 9PP as the numbers are crammed together without enough space which makes it hard to read.

                      For example - when using 4 fields, top two fields just stack together like a one long number.

                      In 3 fields, top and middle field are almost identical in size making it hard to differentiate between the fields contents and significance.

                      All this is in regards to reading the fields quickly, without taking time to decipher the screen.

                      S9PP 2.40.38

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                        Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @David l
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                        @David-l said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

                        So, with deep regret, I’m having to go back to a Fenix X. Suunto Race for sale if anyone is in the UK.

                        I come to the same conclusion every few days… but for now I continue with the Race.

                        By the way, good luck with the sale, second-hand prices for the Race are very low.

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @GiPFELKiND
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                          @GiPFELKiND It will come when testing is completed and Suunto releases it.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            vjakub @Brad_Olwin
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                            @Brad_Olwin I understand you cannot share much but is there any change in relation to display brightness in sleeping mode?

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                              sartoric Moderator @vjakub
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                              @vjakub said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

                              I understand you cannot share much

                              Here you have your answer 😁

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                              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Luis Andés Olmedo
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                                @Luis-Andés-Olmedo and @Matúš I understand you have valid reasons to go back to Garmin. The two companies differ dramatically in their philosophy, design and UI. Don’t expect Suunto to Garminize or Garmin to Suuntofy. You should be satisfied with what you have. Hardware, firmware and the apps will change but the underlying foundation will likely not.

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  David l @Brad_Olwin
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                                  @Brad_Olwin said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

                                  @Luis-Andés-Olmedo and @Matúš I understand you have valid reasons to go back to Garmin. The two companies differ dramatically in their philosophy, design and UI. Don’t expect Suunto to Garminize or Garmin to Suuntofy. You should be satisfied with what you have. Hardware, firmware and the apps will change but the underlying foundation will likely not.

                                  Theres nothing wrong with the foundation - the watch is really good but there issues with it that mean it sometimes isn’t fit for purpose.

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                                    Matúš Bronze Member @Matúš
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                                    @Matúš said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.:

                                    @enriqueescoms said in Unfortunately time to go back to Garmin.😆

                                    Having said all this, and what really bothers me, at the moment I am still compensated by the quality of the watch itself as an object and the minimalist approach. So I will continue to give my vote of confidence to Suunto.

                                    🤞🤞

                                    @Brad_Olwin, I’ve never said that I want to go back to Garmin, indeed, I am keeping my 🤞 concerning the consolidation of the Suunto platform.😉

                                    I’m quite well with my 9PP, i.e., I do not need/want any other Suunto or whatever competitor watch, but, let’s say, I will be definitely happy when Suunto will be able to fix all(most) the bugs related to watch(es) basic features.

                                    In an other thread, someone has said something like “Suunto has to sell products not 100% bug-free in order to reinvest the income in the R&D of features (that everyone want) and new watches (that everyone want)”: overlooking the need of new watches (I’m the type of guy which has not to change any device each year…) ok, that’s good, but what I’m seeing is that the majority of the users on this forum are complaining about certain lacks in the watches base software, nothing more.

                                    So, just saying, many think that watches updates to fix basic problems should be preferable, let’s say, once a month and not once every three months, but including the feature to be able to run on the Moon across the space.🤙 🙂

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                                    Suunto Spartan Sport

                                    #swatt

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                                      renton82 Platinum Member @David l
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                                      Unfortunately i’m on the same way to go back to Garmin, bug fixing is too slow, you can’t wait months for fixing bugs from small one to major one. Considering life cycle of these devices you passes half of their lifes waiting for bugfix until all features work as it should. Watches are great but software development is awful.

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                                      • vjakubV Offline
                                        vjakub @renton82
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                                        @renton82 Luckily I have found a buyer for my Garmin Epix2. There are some bits like AOD full watch-face or a way the watch behaves during the sleep mode that would be nice to have in Suunto (at least optional) but none of these change the fact that I’m still in love my SR

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                                          renton82 Platinum Member @vjakub
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                                          @vjakub I have never sold my Garmin, you can sold it to another one.

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                                          • enriqueescomsE Offline
                                            enriqueescoms @Matúš
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                                            @Matúš Basically agree 🤙 😉

                                            Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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