SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024

Antoine

Hello,
A question on sleep tracking (in Suunto App):
Is “veille” (in french) for non-sleep/wake-up duration ?
Thanks

Dušan Ković

I just tried biking (Race on the suunto Bike mount) with Always on display enabled. Navigation is unusable, it is fine when display is bright, but it dims in 10s and it is almost impossible to see even in shadows. On the direct sunlight it is invisible. I had to click watch every time I wanted to navigate my route. This is really terrible and it needs to be fixed asap.

cemoi71

I don’t noticed so much issues about it, but i’m glad to have it, for the new watch faces and all the new fixes…
And especially now my s9pp notifys and displays me back again when the watch reach the lower power limits.
It was broken in the last firmware.

I had one time a “strange” notification on the watch that I never had before. The watch noticed me that I was seatdown too long, more than 2 hours…
quite interesting, I find it good, but I ask me where are the settings of it, to be able to change something (time, enable/disable I don’t know what else…)

sartoric

@cemoi71
did you check the manual?

cemoi71

@sartoric I’ve checked it yes, but didn’t have look deeper inside in place that you’ve pointed.
In french it is translated in form that we could interpret it as “wake-up” too.
Which it don’t lead me to think that is could handle on the movement by seating too.
Only a thinking point of view…
Many thanks for having pointed to me

false

<sarcasm-on> Love this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP <sarcasm-off/>

Joking aside, another firmware update brought new regression bugs. It isn’t surprising, is it? If we read this thread we can see people once again are complaining about very basic use cases - dark screen while biking, useless airplane mode from the widget, breadcrumbs etc. It looks like Suunto doesn’t care about software QA at all and it’s very very sad.

Matúš

@false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

Love this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP

It’s to avoid getting lost while track running…

enriqueescoms

@false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP

Yeah, this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on the 9PP is not cool at all.

@false Regression in sw development unfortunately can happen, the real problem is waiting months for patching when regression seriously impairs usage. Always-on breadcrumb is only nuisance imo.

Dušan Ković

Does anyone has any info on bugfix update for bunch of problems that users are encountering?

Thanks

Mff73

@enriqueescoms said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

@false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on my 9PP

Yeah, this new always-on “breadcrumbs” option on the 9PP is not cool at all.

what is always on breadcrumbs, please ?
is it the capability to remove the breadcrumb screen ? I just tested with my wife’s S9PP and it is still possible with activity navigation option. Am i confusing things ?

@Mff73 The navigation option is not remembered once set to another value

false

@cjanevate said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

@false Regression in sw development unfortunately can happen

For sure, but I am, but actually “we are”, talking about extremely basic scenarios and not even an edge cases (i.e “push this button 3 times then push that button 4 times then turn around and get a bug”)

Always-on breadcrumb is only nuisance imo.

Yes, it is, but, imo, such easily reproducing bugs (one button push away from a user) must be eliminated before rolling a release. Really, I can’t believe. All in all, Suunto isn’t a small indie dev company that can afford to neglect such matters.

PS: especially when users have to wait for months till next firmware update

@false said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

For sure, but I am, but actually “we are”, talking about extremely basic scenarios and

unfortunately, until they discover the problem, there is nothing they can do, and rehashing the same concerns does not help them. if you do not tolerate this, you know the solution…

false

@cjanevate said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.33.12 - Q1 2024:

if you do not tolerate this, you know the solution

Yes, make it open-source

enriqueescoms

@Mff73 Now, by default, when we start an gps activity, the breadcumb screen is always activated. Of course, you can deactivate it before starting the activity. But it doesn’t save the settings for the next one. It’s not a big problem but it can be a bit of a nuisance.

Mff73

@enriqueescoms
Ah OK.
Any one has its own level of nuisance tolerance.

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.37.48

@Mff73 I find it problematic not because it’s there, but because it’s another screen to cycle.

The workaround that I have for being unable to cycle workout screens to the left is to have just two of them and no navigation (if I don’t intend to use it). This way I either see first or the second screen upon middle button press. Or one S+ if I (rarely) use it.

It’s the same as being unable to disable the vertical navigation screen, which is strangely glued to the navigation if the route is active.

Mff73

@Łukasz-Szmigiel
i was just questionning myself, no judgment.
It was an option, it was remembered, it is not anymore, it is not nice, it is a “bug”.
Then, it is just few clicks to remove it, and “remove it each time” is the definition of a nuisance I got it

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.37.48

@Mff73 no problem, just wanted to shed some more light on the context of it.