Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:
@ortles hey. So do I understand that this happens to you all the time ?
Yeah, right, exactly that!
I have tried over and over during my holidays with different activities. I followed every method which is mentioned here more than one time.
Sometimes, but very rare, I was able to sync a longer activity. This didn’t follow a clear pattern. In the end, sync was no longer possible at all, no matter what I tried. So I just had to stop using vertical. Since then it’s waiting in one of my boxes and I am back to my ambit which seemed to be already retired ;-(
Edit: Just gave it another try. Nothing has changed, no sync possible no matter what I do (unpair / pair, airplane mode on etc.). No chance, simply doesn’t work.
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As far as I understand most of the others here it‘s similar for them. They cannot sync at all.
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For me it’s intermittent.
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Yesterday I did a hike split in 2 parts.
The second part, from the peak to the car sync almost immediately after I stopped it.
The first one, that I tried to firstly sync at the hut with bad mobile signal, did get through only at home after connecting to the WiFi.
I’ve been out for some hours before going home with bad to almost good mobile connection (and no WiFi of any kind).
maybe could it be related to that ? stuck on the first sync with bad signal ?I did try airplane mode, discovery, cache, force stop and maybe, not sure, a phone restart
I just did a run, and it sync immediately
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@sartoric I don’t know if it is related but my issue occurred in similar conditions - we did a hike with sleeping outside. After the day 1 I had an issue to sync activity with a bad mobile signal. I even saw some yellow warning for a short time in the app after the activity should be synced but it wasn’t. Then I tried all the things with turning off the app, turning off bluetooth etc and it failed several more times. It synced after the 5g signal was established.
Again I am not sure which of those things helped in the end but I saw some similarity in the fact that there wasn’t stable internet connection at the time. -
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:
So do I understand that this happens to you all the time ?
If you read the entire thread you will have plenty of info from many users about the nature of the problem.
The only thing that matters in my case is the length of activity: short (10 min) activities sync ok, but for long (>60 min) activities it may take a day or two before they sync. During sync, the connection between the app and the watch is often lost and the app makes multiple attempts to reconnect. I have described this in my posts above already. I sent Suunto support a summary of this, with a link to this thread long ago. -
It’s even worse for me: I can sync short activities of a few minutes but not long activities, no matter what I do.
It has nothing to do with mobile signal during activity, wifi access, airplane mode on or off or anything else. I have tried everything.
I really recommend to read the very profound posts of @Mats-Djupsjöbacka who has made some nice guesses what the problem might be like.
If the problem cannot be identified it might be better to go back to the old version of sync (just imho). A more or less minimal (at least not really relevant) increase in speed seems to cause problems which seem to be really weird and close to unsolvable. Afterwards there would be any time in the world to work on an improved solution. IMO it’s not a shame to take something back that doesn’t work properly as it should.
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@ortles Unfortunately, I have nothing to add to what @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos shared, not exactly my area of expertise. As he said issue is known and under investigation, thanks for your reports and patience.
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@pavel-samokha said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:
@ortles Unfortunately, I have nothing to add to what @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos shared, not exactly my area of expertise. As he said issue is known and under investigation, thanks for your reports and patience.
Thanks for your reply, really appreciated
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@sartoric Thanks for the clarification. I wasn’t aware that @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos works for Suunto. I was expecting something more like an official message on Suunto’s social platforms or through the news channel that appears periodically in the app. But anyway… now it is clear. Thanks again.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I don’t know if this is relevant, but in my case the sync problem started with the new firmware and the first long climbing activity, which also records the altitude profile. Since then (and this was 3 weeks ago) no activities or other data (e.g. sleep data, HR etc.) have been able to be synchronised. Synchronisation starts, goes through each activity, but fails with the message “3/3 activities were not synchronised”. I have tried all the remedies suggested here - power off/on, reinstall the app, unpair/pair, airplane mode, etc. - but they don’t work, sync fails every time.
@sartoric said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is from Suunto and they are debugging this issue and asking for information
As @sartoric pointed out to me that you are debugging this issue, I can provide you with any information you need to find this problem. If you need the logs or anything else, please feel free to ask. I’m also familiar with the usual development environments for mobile apps (XCode/Android Studio), so if you can give me some background information, I can provide more specific details about my particular device that may help to pinpoint this problem. I would really like to see this problem solved soon and I’m willing to help.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
This morning I had the issue again:
1/ Yellow warning that there are syncing issues
2/ Connection between the app and the watch lost (nothing helped - airplane mode, Bluetooth off, restart the app,…)
3/ I clicked on Forget the app in the watch
4/ I clicked on add a new device in the app
5/ the app is searching for the device
6/ suddenly it is not searching for the device but it says that the watch is synced
7/ The activity appears in the app
8/ logs sent around 7:25 today
Aren’t there a new Bluetooth drivers or something like that in the latest firmware?
Thanks for working on this issue! -
@Zdeněk-Hruška Please pm me your email so I can find the logs
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Just a theory from my side (i have already written down somewhere here):
It might be possible that verticals are built out of different pieces of hardware in detail. E. g. during production process there might have been used different bluetooth units for producing the watch depending on the date of production.
If the new firmware uses a new bluetooth driver (to increase speed) it might not work properly with the different variations of hardware vertical is built of in detail.
This might explain why some people have no problems at all whereas others manage to get through from time to time or under certain circumstances and others (like me) never succeed and all this has nothing to do with the mobile you are using or the OS on your mobile.
This might also explain why it’s difficult to reproduce the bug.
It simply depends on the individual hardware of your watch respective on firmware which is not suitable for certain variations of hardware which are there in detail.
It’s just a theory from my side, I am not an IT expert.
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@ortles Sounds logical and I hope we will get more official info soon.
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Update 2.33.14 is released, I have successfully gone through the update process.
Sync seems to work properly now
I am very relieved that we now have a solution, I was close to give up but vertical seems back in the game now.
For sure I will test this out further more, the next long activities are already on schedule.
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Just finished my first workout with 2.33.14 update on the Race and I’m still seeing the sync problem
Bluetooth connection gets lost and activity is not synced with SA / cloud.
Given that there wasn’t any explicit mention of a sync fix in the change log (apart from a vague S+ communication fix), I wasn’t really expecting it to be solved yet with this update.
EDIT: FYI, I use Burner and Training Peaks - Ride S+ apps in case that matters wrt figuring out the sync issue.
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Maybe I was too optimistic with my first statement, just read something about ‚device communication‘ and thought that therefore this must be the long awaited update for the sync problem.
I will test this out from my side as well.
Before the update could be installed, I had to delete all activities on the watch. Since then, connection seems to work. But you are right, this is not really the use case.
I hope for the best and keep you updated (pun intendet!).
Edit: I don’t use any suunto plus apps (to be honest I am not sure what this exactly is…)
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@ortles @Mads-Hintz-Madsen @thailon @Suzanne @inkognito For those of you that sent me logs, I forwarded them to Suunto. I have not had these issues with my own Vertical, Race or 9PP. I have synced activities up to 9h in length with no issues. As was stated here, the problem is not occurring for all and difficult to pinpoint. Just wanted you all to know as well from me.
Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing
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@Brad_Olwin we understand! Since some people suggested that the sync issue (that some of us do have) had been solved with today’s update, then I just wanted to report that I’m still seeing the sync issue after the update.
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OK, I was wrong!
Did a gym unit of roughly 90 mins. today.
Nothing special - I used standard preset sports mode which is just measuring total time and heart rate (used a heart rate belt for that).
Sync unfortunately still not possible (like others have already reported here).
