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    • Lukáš BlažekL Offline
      Lukáš Blažek @ortles
      last edited by Lukáš Blažek

      @ortles It didn’t work and I tried to contact Suunto one more time.
      Suunto:
      "Okay apparently we have not received any information on bad BT yet. But yes we have tried all the possible steps to unfortunately we are not successful in any of those steps. And yes we have we still waiting for a update in Suunto app and in watch as well for the issue to fixed in the next update.

      Suunto 12:19

      As a Suunto Race user myself I have tried all the possible steps but unfortunately one of our colleague’s watch it is still not synced with the app.

      My:

      I know that you doing your best, but is there some time plan to solved the problem?

      Suunto 12:21

      It is to be estimated within this month.

      Suunto 12:24

      The update should be there within this month.

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      • Lukáš BlažekL Offline
        Lukáš Blažek @Charles
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        @Charles hello Charles, I send my watch to the service, please could I ask you, do you have any reference number or other identifier of your cases?

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        • CharlesC Offline
          Charles Bronze Member @Lukáš Blažek
          last edited by

          @Lukáš-Blažek
          Check your messages 🙂

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            ortles Silver Members @Lukáš Blažek
            last edited by ortles

            @Lukáš-Blažek said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:

            @ortles It didn’t work and I tried to contact Suunto one more time.
            Suunto:
            "Okay apparently we have not received any information on bad BT yet. But yes we have tried all the possible steps to unfortunately we are not successful in any of those steps. And yes we have we still waiting for a update in Suunto app and in watch as well for the issue to fixed in the next update.

            Thanks for sharing! Even though this sounds weird and confusing in my ears. The issue should be well known for Suunto (so it doesn’t make sense to say that they have no information). And it doesn’t make sense to say ‚they have tried everything and nothing works‘.

            Given that, I don’t believe you can trust everything else. I would like to but I have doubts.

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            • freeheelerF Offline
              freeheeler @ortles
              last edited by

              @ortles
              I’m sorry

              living sideways

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              • Lukáš BlažekL Offline
                Lukáš Blažek @ortles
                last edited by

                @ortles I absolutely agree, I just take it as another piece of confused information and obfuscation from Suunto. I am waiting for a statement from the service center here in the Czech Republic. I am very curious!

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                  GiPFELKiND Silver Members @tyj14
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                  @tyj14 you are right man! In another Post there are Problems with the red line in the track, some parts are not visibile of you Go Back to find your way Back. There isnt a clear communication, too. The Problem in the Post there is known since Februar this year. And until today i dont know if the Problem is solved… No official Statement for this…

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                  • freeheelerF Offline
                    freeheeler
                    last edited by

                    latest news for all experiencing sync issues with their watches. this might be as official as it can get:
                    Suunto has confirmed they have enough useful logs now and are digging into them as I write.
                    however: no roadmap or timeline will be published.

                    living sideways

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                    • GiPFELKiNDG Online
                      GiPFELKiND Silver Members @freeheeler
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                      @freeheeler thanks a lot for the information 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼infos about the red line Problem in the map If it is not visibile on the going track back?

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                      • freeheelerF Offline
                        freeheeler @GiPFELKiND
                        last edited by

                        @GiPFELKiND
                        no info about this issue. it bothered me recently, too and we have reported it, too, of course.
                        I think the sync issue has a higher priority now

                        living sideways

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                          ortles Silver Members @freeheeler
                          last edited by ortles

                          @freeheeler

                          Thanks for sharing this, we appreciate your help, i am sure this is the best you could do 👍

                          But in fact this is quite little information - after seven weeks they should be much more ahead then just having enough material to start an investigation… Hope for some more specific updates here in the next days.

                          With breadcrumb issue, yeah, i agree, a vital function as well, a fix is overdue, since it’s a long known issue.

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                          • Michał Mirosławski 0M Offline
                            Michał Mirosławski 0 @ortles
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                            Hi!

                            I have the same issue as many others on this thread. After long activities with gps I’m unable to synch by bluetooth (android app on Samsung Galaxy s22 ultra). After couple of restarts of watch, app, phone and bluetooth connection it goes back to normal for a while, untill another similar activity (short activities without gps seems not to do any problems, as well as synching without any new activities). The problem started in april after last software update (I have my verticsl since september).

                            So it’s definitely very common problem. I’m waiting for any information whether we need to wait for bug fix or we need to send our watches back for repair/replacement.

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                              Also noticed that this is quit weird issue that we have with the sync.

                              As former software tester for Suunto, I haven’t found the consistent theory of when the sync failes, and when not. One common thing is the GPS data, so for example indoor trainings have synced without any issues since the update, but the outdoor activities there is this random problem. Allthough 90% of the outdoor trainings will fail on sync, but the sync works if there is just one exercise to sync, but only after re-pairing the BT connection.

                              I have had 45min training, and 90min training but there is no correlation of sync fail. For me this is very annoying because like everybody is saying, with previous FW this worked ok!

                              I have managed to sync every exercise with repairing the BT but this is starting to get more frustrated, and I would like to stay with Suunto since I’m Finnish and I have like 1900 exercise in suunto database 🙂

                              And that also makes me wonder, does the number of exercises in suunto DB have anything to do with this?

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                              • Zdeněk HruškaZ Offline
                                Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @Pazfet
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                                @Pazfet Thanks for this very interesting and informative comment. It is weird issue for sure and I would be very much interested in the root cause (as I work in the IT company :D).
                                For me it appeared only two times and since the latest update I didn’t have this issue at all. Why is that? I have no idea! And I think that my database is also quite big but the issues somehow disappeared.

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                                • EgikaE Offline
                                  Egika Platinum Member
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                                  I have an idea to test - at least whoever is willing to (and no - this is not based on any Suunto official procedure, it just came to my mind).
                                  As the issue only affects a few people, but all over the range of mobile phones, and at the same time the FW is identical -> maybe it is a hardware variation.

                                  Here’s my idea (totally non-science based):
                                  what happens if you try the sync with the watch at different temperatures? like watch in the fridge/freezer for 1h -> then try to sync.
                                  Or watch in the sun for 30min -> then try to sync.

                                  Does it make any difference?

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                                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @GiPFELKiND
                                    last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                    @GiPFELKiND In other threads this is acknowledged as known by Suunto. There will be a fix coming. You already know this. This thread is about syncing, let us not hijack the op!

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                                    • L Offline
                                      laurent92m
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                                      Hello,

                                      As said before, with my SV, synchronization of outdoor activities (30 min to 2h00) are sometime possible ( I would said around 20 %) but always 100 % synchronization of outdoors activities when I download a new map to the watch.
                                      My conclusion: Bluetooth transfer works 100 % fine from Samsung mobile to the watch and at random (20 %) from the watch to mobile

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                                        ortles Silver Members @Egika
                                        last edited by ortles

                                        @Egika said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:

                                        As the issue only affects a few people, but all over the range of mobile phones, and at the same time the FW is identical -> maybe it is a hardware

                                        I have formulated this theory here already in a post on the 1st of april a few days after the update. Others did this as well.

                                        It is possible that different bt units or other variations of different hardware has been used to build the watches. Not all of them can handle the increased sync speed. This would explain why it seems to depend only on the individual watch if snyc works, if it works only under certain circumstances or if it doesn’t work at all.

                                        Did Suunto check this already?

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                                          Egika Platinum Member @ortles
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                                          @ortles as communicated here, Suunto has checked and found something.

                                          I bet the forum users are not better embedded watch engineers than the ones who work at Suunto.

                                          I wanted to share my idea - if you have done so before, I am interested what your findings were. Have you checked at different temperatures?

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                                            ortles Silver Members @Egika
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                                            @Egika said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:

                                            I wanted to share my idea

                                            Yes, and that’s very much appreciated from my side as well, thanks! 👍

                                            To be honest i am reluctant to put my watch in the fridge or in the sun just to try out… How should it have to do something with temperatures?

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