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How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?

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    Łukasz Szmigiel @VoiGAS
    last edited by 7 Jul 2024, 18:47

    @VoiGAS it really depends on what you need. AMOLED or MIP. Maps are a must or not. Newer hardware or don’t care.

    S9PP 2.40.44

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      wurzlsepp Bronze Member @VoiGAS
      last edited by 7 Jul 2024, 22:57

      @VoiGAS well, one thing to keep in mind is the actual always-on-screen on the 9PP. Relevant for stuff like biking, where the watch is on your handle bars. If the Race S used a similar display setting, it surely wouldn’t be a draw anymore due to the powerhungry AMOLED screen 🙂

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        enriqueescoms @VoiGAS
        last edited by enriqueescoms 7 Aug 2024, 06:10 8 Jul 2024, 06:08

        @VoiGAS said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

        new S9PP Titanium available for 270€?

        A new S9PP Titanium available for 270€? I want it 👏 😊 👍

        Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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          Prenj
          last edited by 8 Jul 2024, 07:25

          With the aggressive pricing strategy that Suunto opted for with the latest models, I think that S9PP is pretty much dead. Race S is cheap and offers maps, has good OHR, at almost the same form factor. Some may prefer MIP screen, but Suunto probably have some numbers from surveys on this. If it’s substantial, they could make MIP version of Race S. But it’s likely a dead end…

          Suunto Race

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            Egika Platinum Member @Prenj
            last edited by 8 Jul 2024, 10:28

            @Prenj let’s see.
            I know many that prefer the always on MIP display for the outdoors.
            Plus the S9PP has the Sapphire screen which adds to robustness.
            With a little price reduction it will have its fans, I think.

            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
            Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
            Run Lime

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              krakra Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
              last edited by 8 Jul 2024, 11:16

              @enriqueescoms debating the same. The only thing i am not sure how much longer it will be supported

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                far-blue Bronze Member @krakra
                last edited by 8 Jul 2024, 21:45

                @krakra The 9PP is built on the same platform as the Vertical and Race and shares a codebase so at a guess it should be supported basically as long as the Vertical

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                  Mi_chael Bronze Member @far-blue
                  last edited by Mi_chael 7 Sept 2024, 06:02 9 Jul 2024, 06:01

                  @far-blue

                  I think the S9PP hardware (memory) is not the same due to a limitation of SuuntoPlus app. 15 to 100 for Vertical, Race. Waiting the Race S to confirm also that.

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                    misu763 Bronze Member @wurzlsepp
                    last edited by 9 Jul 2024, 07:49

                    @wurzlsepp I agree. I am satisfied of my S9PP and I really love the MIP screen as it is always clear during outdoor daily activities. Battery life is a very important value for me and the MIP technology replies to my needs.
                    I bought the S9PP for its design also. I am not a big fan of sporty design watches and it matches minimal lines with rugged features on my smal wrist. There are not so many alternatives with the same features on market currently…

                    S9PP Ti Slate

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                      Egika Platinum Member @Mi_chael
                      last edited by 9 Jul 2024, 08:26

                      @Mi_chael correct. Memory is the main difference, as Vertical and Race have the eMMC for map storage. This is also used for other data, like training logs.

                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                      Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                      Run Lime

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                        Łukasz Szmigiel @far-blue
                        last edited by 9 Jul 2024, 08:51

                        @far-blue or as long as it’s economically viable. Which we don’t know 😉

                        But for the time being It’s an awesome watch, still being improved.

                        S9PP 2.40.44

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                          krakra Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
                          last edited by 9 Jul 2024, 08:53

                          @enriqueescoms said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                          @VoiGAS said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                          new S9PP Titanium available for 270€?

                          A new S9PP Titanium available for 270€? I want it 👏 😊 👍

                          Amazon.de. It is refurbished but it says new, box damaged. On that price 340€ they apply additional 20% discount.

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                            far-blue Bronze Member
                            last edited by 11 Jul 2024, 22:31

                            Out of curiosity, what is it do you think that’s holding back the 9PP from gaining maps? Storage capacity? processor speed? I mean, a 9PP with maps is basically a mini vertical (minus the multi band gps).

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                              raceaddict Bronze Member @far-blue
                              last edited by 11 Jul 2024, 22:39

                              @far-blue storage capacity for a given, not exactly the same gpu (lack vector graphics), low resolution display, …

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                                enriqueescoms @misu763
                                last edited by 12 Jul 2024, 05:57

                                @misu763 That is what I think. 👍

                                Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)

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                                  MKPotts Bronze Member @VoiGAS
                                  last edited by 13 Jul 2024, 18:22

                                  @VoiGAS said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                                  About the battery life: Is the Race S better than S9PP after the last update? Before it was a draw on Single Channel exercise, but now the Race S got a little extra battery lifetime

                                  One thing to consider with battery life is that if you use an external hr sensor (or no hr recording) rather than the watch optical sensor, the gain for battery might be proportionally greater for the 9PP than for the Race S.

                                  For an 8hr run last weekend, showing the navigation screen all of the time, autolaps every 1km and connected to a Polar Verity Sense HR monitor, my 9PP used 15% battery. Battery burn rates consistent with 50-55hrs are what I always see in this configuration, incredibly good for such a small watch.

                                  I don’t know what the battery burn rate is with the Race S when using an external sensor but guess it will be higher than the 9PP because of the screen (unless it is off most of the time).

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                                    wurzlsepp Bronze Member @Egika
                                    last edited by 14 Jul 2024, 15:48

                                    @Egika said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

                                    @Prenj let’s see.
                                    I know many that prefer the always on MIP display for the outdoors.

                                    Well, the problem from a market perspective could be that those many don’t buy new watches that often … 😄

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                                      VoiGAS Silver Members
                                      last edited by 21 Jul 2024, 10:40

                                      As the 9PP is still not discounted I really think about buying the Race S. Only the battery lifetime (without training) is bothering me. Are there any experience about the maximum lifetime without notifications, heart rate, sleep tracking and lowest display setting? Are 14 days possible that? Else the 9PP would still have a big advantage


                                      Race S
                                      Ambit3 Vertical

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                                        krakra Bronze Member @VoiGAS
                                        last edited by 21 Jul 2024, 12:44

                                        @VoiGAS i paid 200€ for new titanium s9pp on amazon. 😉

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                                          VoiGAS Silver Members @krakra
                                          last edited by VoiGAS 21 Jul 2024, 16:14

                                          @krakra I guess you were very, very lucky. I can’t even find a new one there. Used for 364€ - thats to much. Maybe I will also be lucky, for 200€ or even 270€ like above its a no brainer for the titanium


                                          Race S
                                          Ambit3 Vertical

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