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      MKPotts Bronze Member @gdimos
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      @gdimos
      My watch is the same - the screen never turns off like it should if I leave it on a table.

      Suunto replaced my watch in January after I sent it back a second time because of bubbles in the HR sensor coating. The screen on my original watch did turn off as it should. But there was a software update around the time my watch was replaced, so I’ve assumed that was the cause of the change, rather than my second watch being faulty.

      I’d also be interested to know if everyone is seeing this bug or just a few people. My watch has other bugs e.g. I can’t turn off the HR sensor in endurance battery mode, which I’ve also so far assumed are firmware issues, rather than specific to my watch.

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @gdimos
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        @gdimos said in Screen never goes blanc:

        Hi,

        I’m new in the forum since yesterday I purchased an S9 Peak Pro.
        I noticed that the screen dimms when there is no watch motion, but never goes blank. Of course I have updated to the latest version and yes, I made a soft reset since whatever option I was choosing I was never having blanc screen even when the watch was on the table and inactive for minutes…
        Has someone experienced such behaviour, or I’m the very first “lucky”? (I couldn’t find anything relevant in previous posts)

        ver. 2.33.16
        Brightness: medium
        Display standby off
        Raise to wake up: High
        Power saving: off
        Backlight: off

        Thanks

        I have reported this to Suunto, I have two S9PP watches, one has behavior similar to yours and one is working correctly. Suunto is aware of this issue and hopefully will be solved soon.

        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          gdimos @Brad_Olwin
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          @Brad_Olwin said in Screen never goes blanc:

          @gdimos said in Screen never goes blanc:

          Hi,

          I’m new in the forum since yesterday I purchased an S9 Peak Pro.
          I noticed that the screen dimms when there is no watch motion, but never goes blank. Of course I have updated to the latest version and yes, I made a soft reset since whatever option I was choosing I was never having blanc screen even when the watch was on the table and inactive for minutes…
          Has someone experienced such behaviour, or I’m the very first “lucky”? (I couldn’t find anything relevant in previous posts)

          ver. 2.33.16
          Brightness: medium
          Display standby off
          Raise to wake up: High
          Power saving: off
          Backlight: off

          Thanks

          I have reported this to Suunto, I have two S9PP watches, one has behavior similar to yours and one is working correctly. Suunto is aware of this issue and hopefully will be solved soon.

          Thank you Brad
          and thanks to All who responded

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @gdimos
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            @gdimos said in Screen never goes blanc:

            @Brad_Olwin said in Screen never goes blanc:

            @gdimos said in Screen never goes blanc:

            Hi,

            I’m new in the forum since yesterday I purchased an S9 Peak Pro.
            I noticed that the screen dimms when there is no watch motion, but never goes blank. Of course I have updated to the latest version and yes, I made a soft reset since whatever option I was choosing I was never having blanc screen even when the watch was on the table and inactive for minutes…
            Has someone experienced such behaviour, or I’m the very first “lucky”? (I couldn’t find anything relevant in previous posts)

            ver. 2.33.16
            Brightness: medium
            Display standby off
            Raise to wake up: High
            Power saving: off
            Backlight: off

            Thanks

            I have reported this to Suunto, I have two S9PP watches, one has behavior similar to yours and one is working correctly. Suunto is aware of this issue and hopefully will be solved soon.

            Thank you Brad
            and thanks to All who responded

            With the latest test firmware this appears to be fixed for me so it should be fixed with the upcoming update.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              MKPotts Bronze Member
              last edited by

              This is now fixed for me following the latest update, the screen turns off as it should if I take the watch off.

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                gdimos @MKPotts
                last edited by

                @MKPotts For me, the problem
                remains even in 2.35.34 s/w version

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                  isazi Moderator @gdimos
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                  @gdimos I also have issues, and reported it to Suunto

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                    gdimos
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                    Re: Screen never goes blanc
                    Finally, the… mystery is solved, thanks to Suunto support agent on the web site. The display dims but never-never goes blanc because the heart rate sensor is always on! It would be very funny if it wasn’t disappointing.
                    So, I turned down my previous Garmin because of ridiculous battery life, and purchased Suunto because of (marketing) long battery life!
                    So, now I should be happy watching the display to drain battery, because heart rate sensor is activated… And I’m not talking about watching my heart rate in the display. Sensor is working in the background and the display stays always on (showing the time), for a reason which only Suunto engineering knows.
                    It would be very beneficial for Suunto engineering to check what competition is doing, and Suunto marketing to be very conscious on using battery life as a flag in their sales campaign.
                    Respecting customer should be an addiction, not another marketing buzzword.

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                      raceaddict Bronze Member @gdimos
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                      @gdimos I don’t understand. The S9PP has a MIP display. It is an always on display by virtue and consume power only when changing data displayed. So long battery life advertised is with the screen always on.
                      Have you an issue with the battery life ?

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                        gdimos @raceaddict
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                        @raceaddict
                        Yes, MIP is consuming much less battery power than AMOLED. My objection is based on principle.
                        If you use a screen technology for saving battery, and you have the option to turn the screen off, as you do that when you don’t wear the watch (BTW that bug seems that resolved in the latest release, after 2,5 years having the product in the market), then why you keep it always on, just because the heart rate sensor is always on?
                        You can improve the power consumption but you don’t do it, although you could???

                        Just to give an example from competition. During the sleeping hours, the screen goes blanc automatically, and it is activated only with double tap. In Suunto you have to do this manually but of course with a screen always-on, shining though dimmed, in the darkness of your sleeping room!!!

                        So, to answer your question, no I don’t have any battery issue so far, and I own my watch less than a month.

                        But I’m very concerned on how Suunto is engineering their watches, especially when such a product is being advertised on a specific feature (long battery life) and I realise that elementary steps are missed from preserving battery life.

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                          raceaddict Bronze Member @gdimos
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                          @gdimos The S9PP has the best battery life on the market for a watch of this size. So saying Suunto doesn’t engineer their watches to have a great battery life is more than a stretch.

                          In your example, what I understand is you have the backlight on, even at night. It is not normal. Please check your settings !
                          https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/Product-support/suunto_9_peak_pro/suunto_9_peak_pro/settings/automatic-backlight/

                          I suspect you have setup you standby light always on.

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                            MKPotts Bronze Member @gdimos
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                            @gdimos
                            I don’t know why Suunto support told you the screen doesn’t/shouldn’t turn off if you take the watch off.
                            My first 9PP, which I had for a year, turned the screen off. My replacement didn’t until the newest firmware release. It now does turn off after 2 minutes if I take off the watch and put in on a table. The user guide clearly states that is how it should work. My S9B and S9P do exactly the same.
                            I’m not sure it makes a meaningful difference to battery life unless you’re taking the watch off for days/weeks. But it should turn off the screen if working correctly.

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                              gdimos @MKPotts
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                              @MKPotts No, Suunto support didn’t tell me screen doesn’t turn off when watch is taken off from my hand. That was not the question and yes, watch is turning off when is out of hand.
                              Question was about screen not turning off when it is on hand, and of course when there is no action.
                              Just to be clear what Suunto support said and avoid creating any misunderstanding - they did their job perfect!

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                                gdimos @raceaddict
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                                @raceaddict No, Standby is always Off, brightness is Medium and “raise to wake” is high
                                Is there any option for having backlight off after some time of inactivity?

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                                  Mff73 @gdimos
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                                  @gdimos said in Screen never goes blanc:

                                  @raceaddict No, Standby is always Off, brightness is Medium and “raise to wake” is high
                                  Is there any option for having backlight off after some time of inactivity?

                                  Not in watch mode.

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                                  Suunto Vertical all black
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                                    raceaddict Bronze Member @gdimos
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                                    @gdimos In the same Web page I linked, there is this note You can also set the backlight to be always on. Scroll to Backlight in Settings or in the Control panel, and toggle the switch to force backlight on.
                                    Check this setting.

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                                      gdimos @raceaddict
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                                      @raceaddict You are correct, there is the below note in the user’s manual:
                                      “NOTE: You can also set the backlight to be always on. Scroll to Backlight in Settings or in the Control panel, and toggle the switch to force backlight on.”
                                      BUT there is not such an option in the watch menu as also Mff73 noted. I think that this note in the manual is ran out from a previous s/w version.
                                      Anyway, just to give an end to this quest, I understand that the MIP display of 9PP never goes off as long as heart rate sensor is on. And this is what SUUNTO support has been responded in my case. Indeed, after I switched-off 24x7 sensor, watch screen went totally blanc after some minutes of wrist inactivity. Consequently, since technically there is capability of having the screen totally blanc (for preserving battery), I would expect this bug (connecting HR sensor activity with screen) to be eliminated in the next s/w version!
                                      Many thanks to all of you in Suunto Community for your contribution and help in this my very first thread in Suunto forum
                                      Best Regards

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                                        MKPotts Bronze Member @gdimos
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                                        @gdimos
                                        Sorry, I’ve misunderstood from the beginning what your problem/complaint is.
                                        Understanding now that you want the screen to turn off completely when you’re wearing the watch - completely blank, not just the backlight off - my watch will do this but I have to keep my arm completely still. Even the slightest movement will turn the screen back on - from what I can tell, much less than is needed to activate the backlight in the “raise to wake” setting.

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