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    • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
      Łukasz Szmigiel
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      This is absolutely fantastic! I can already see different aerobic thresholds for running and cycling for my recent activities and it’s significantly lower for cycling. Awesome stuff ❤️

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        First 90 minute run, did exactly what I would expect it to. Was very hot and humid so the app set my aerobic threshold well below my zone 2 max previously set.

        PLEASE fully bake this in 🙂

        1. Option to use this to define the intensity zone rings so I’m restricted to just the app page
        2. Option to calculate TSS based on time spent in each of these zones (TSS will be a lot less useful now for those of us that decide to leverage this new functionality)

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          Ze Stuart Gold Members @stromdiddily
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          @stromdiddily yes, moving it from SP to main would be amazing, as would being able to set its target zone. It’s a lot like what Stryd does with environmental power, but for more than running.

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            GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Ze Stuart
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            First run today with the new ZoneSense…
            Can anybody explain whats going on here!

            Aerobic Zone Green with heart rate 180!!!
            Later the graph from ZoneSense is Red with 180 bpm… And finally we have Red graph With 170 bpm… Suunto Smart Sensor!

            And the anaerobic Treshhold is 190???
            Never ever. My lactat Treshhold in lab test in running was 175! Like its set in the watch!

            Please whats going on here 🤔🫣

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              @Freezer Autumn sometime

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              • Zdeněk HruškaZ Offline
                Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @Swaddy61
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                @Swaddy61 Hi, it is useful for you the same way it Is useful for anyone else. 3 zones and 5 zones models are just a different ways how to say the same thing. The thresholds apply in the same way.
                Z1+Z2 in 5 zones model is the aerobic zone in the ZoneSense.
                Aerobic Threshold
                Z3+Z4 is the anaerobic zone in ZoneSense (even if the naming is not totally right, it is still very much aerobic:)).
                “Anaerobic threshold”
                And the rest is the same.
                For you it can help you to recognize where the thresholds are. And you can be sure you are working the proper part of your physiology. 3 zones model is more similar to the way how the body really works. 5 zone model is more artificial - it’s for people to have more control of the training. But the body doesn’t care that much:) You can use both according to your actual needs.

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                  Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
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                  @GiPFELKiND said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                  First run today with the new ZoneSense…
                  Can anybody explain whats going on here!

                  Aerobic Zone Green with heart rate 180!!!

                  I had more or less the same feedback after my first run yesterday: Green zone with heart rate clearly in yellow zone (165).

                  BTW, I tried it with my COOSPO HR Belt and it works 🙂

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                  • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                    Łukasz Szmigiel
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                    Is there a neat way to update zones in the watch according just to calculated aerobic threshold? Or I’d have to push hard enough to have anaerobic calculated too (to hell with max, I don’t care about that).

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                    • Zdeněk HruškaZ Offline
                      Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel if you go for an accurate result you need to push unfortunately.😄 There are ways how to calculate zones (probably not directly in the watch/app) but without the numbers it’s always an estimate which can be widely wrong:) I think that something like 20 minutes test could be enough to have a quite good estimation.

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                      • martintrailM Offline
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                        I also tested yesterday for the first time in the hills and it’s very strict. 😅 I had to push a lot, but that’s about it. 😄
                        I would have liked a lot to have ZoneSense as the first dial at the start of the activity + to be able to see the length and time of the activity. That’s all I need. But that’s really a minor thing.

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                          Matúš Bronze Member @martintrail
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                          @martintrail said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                          to be able to see the length and time of the activity. That’s all I need. But that’s really a minor thing.

                          I’ve just found out that it is possible to modify the data fields showed during the activity by modifying them through the ZoneSense app page on S+: acutally, there is a option reporting both distance and duration.

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                          • martintrailM Offline
                            martintrail Silver Members @Matúš
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                            @Matúš oooh, I see… thank you!

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                              Egika Platinum Member @Luis Andés Olmedo
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                              @Luis-Andés-Olmedo said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                              @GiPFELKiND said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                              First run today with the new ZoneSense…
                              Can anybody explain whats going on here!

                              Aerobic Zone Green with heart rate 180!!!

                              I had more or less the same feedback after my first run yesterday: Green zone with heart rate clearly in yellow zone (165).

                              BTW, I tried it with my COOSPO HR Belt and it works 🙂

                              The new thing about ZoneSense is, that it is not just another representation of HR. HR and Zone are not a linear dependence, otherwise this would not be a big innovation.
                              Please differentiate between zone and HR.
                              Maybe read here: https://www.suunto.com/de-de/sports/News-Articles-container-page/introducing-zonesense-revolutionizing-intensity-insights-with-heart-stress-measurement/

                              Example from that page: 563b5099-fa28-4fa0-82c0-83fdc6c53273-image.png

                              And also watch and try to understand: https://youtu.be/bD3O4BZ9vIc

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                                thanasis Bronze Member @Egika
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                                @Egika I don’t understand why I m not seing zonesense in my app ! I added it ok the watch , I could see the details but there is nothing on the app. Where do you see that ? (iOS btw)

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                                  Egika Platinum Member @thanasis
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                                  @thanasis have you updated your app? It is in the activity details.

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @GiPFELKiND
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                                    @GiPFELKiND said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                    First run today with the new ZoneSense…
                                    Can anybody explain whats going on here!

                                    Aerobic Zone Green with heart rate 180!!!
                                    Later the graph from ZoneSense is Red with 180 bpm… And finally we have Red graph With 170 bpm… Suunto Smart Sensor!

                                    Please check the video:
                                    https://youtu.be/bD3O4BZ9vIc?si=FfvmBw9HMXuT19HK&t=2551

                                    There is muscle stress that is independent of the heart stress. ZoneSense does no only map your HR zones in a different way. It is an independent real time measurement.

                                    And it needs some time to reach homeostasis. Short activity tests with longer resting will not properly reflect in ZoneSense. This is also in the video.

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                                      thanasis Bronze Member @Egika
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                                      @Egika said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                      @thanasis have you updated your app? It is in the activity details.

                                      Well it indeed needed an update and it doesn’t show that there is a newer version ,. Thanks !!!

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                                      • ? Offline
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                                        I’m curious to know if disabling sleep tracking and HR 24/7 on the watch still allows the ZoneSense algorithm to function properly.

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                                          Luis Andés Olmedo Bronze Member @Guest
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                                          @obhikkhu said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                          I’m curious to know if disabling sleep tracking and HR 24/7 on the watch still allows the ZoneSense algorithm to function properly.

                                          I do not use sleep tracking nor HR 24/7 and yesterday I got ZoneSense suggestions after 45’ running.

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                                            Antoine Bronze Member
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                                            I don’t have the “measured” values and HR values do not correspond to HR zone i can see in information field.
                                            With ZoneSens i am in “arrobie” zone but according to HR zones i should be in zones 3/4/5.
                                            I don’t understand ? 🤔
                                            Can someone explain ?
                                            Thanks

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