Suunto ZoneSense

[surfboomerang]

Am I missing something?

I did a 1:15hr run this morning. During the run, zone sense showed me that I trained in multiple zones.
After a sync, the activity in Suunto app shows me that I trained 100% in the aerobic zone.

[SamuelP]

@surfboomerang i had the same on my first exercise. Second exercise showed accurate live values on the watch. It needs some calibration and gets more accurate over time.

[dmcdmc]

@surfboomerang same situation for me. Sensezone woking quite well during actitvity but later on app it onlye shows all green and blue as aerobic.

[Swaddy61]

@gone-troppo Have a look in the ‘ZoneSense’ Thread under ‘Suunto App’ (not Sports Apps). It was explained to me clearly there how to find it.

Sorry, I don’t know how to link other threads here!

[the_ultraman]

It doesn’t show very accurately when running uphill or downhill. It showed the lowest aerobic level when I was running uphill in my zone 4 at 15 percent incline.

[Richard Thygesen]

Really interesting. Sad that I’m unable to use it.
Haven’t owned a heart rate strap that works for me.

[TyreseJ4]

@Mauerwegler Link?

[SuuntoR]

@dmcdmc same here after first 11km run. Will have to test some more if it calibrates. I think the data shown on the watch was better reflecting how I felt during the run.

[althaea35]

@the_ultraman

I found a comment on Facebook from Janne Kallio

"You have this week received the new Suunto Zonesense analysis. To learn the background, science, examples of this ground breaking tech… spend an hour on our zonesense lecture.

Note, there has been some weird / different behaviour on real time measurement vs afger analysis in few specifc scenarios, there will be upcoming mobile update which will fix this. There was a bug that awas left on release, but will be fixed soonish."

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/tAAGoDRCb2PJ96Mf/?mibextid=oFDknk

[halajos]

@taziden have you had something like this in my post here? https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11713/race-misbehaving-in-multiple-ways

[Christoph13]

To everyone not finding the ZoneSense data in the Suunto App on their iPhones despite seeing the ZoneSense App during the run on the watch:
You probably do not have the most up to date iOS app even though you do not see any update offered.

To remedy:
Don’t rely on automatic updates to all your iPhone apps, it does not work (in this case).
Go the the App Store on your iPhone
Search for Suunto App (it probably says “Open” but don’t click there)
Click on the title “Suunto App”, so the page displays that lets you explore the marketing blurb. Here it most likely will offer you a button saying “update”.

Clicking this is what helped me. Now I can choose the Zone DDA values in my recorded runs.

[Christoph13]

Regarding the real-time use:
I am in my tapering phase for a race in about a week’s time. I will probably race by feel but what should the ZoneSense display during a half marathon if I manage to push myself just hard enough? What would I gain compared to say following a combination of pace/HR or Stryd Power?

Also, I have done the last five runs or so with my Polar H10 HR belt, and the zones appear to match exactly the ones I calculated based on the last race results (except one that is so far off to be untrustworthy).
What kind of training session would help to make ZoneSense more accurate in the time remaining?
Thanks

[gone troppo]

@Christoph13 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

To everyone not finding the ZoneSense data in the Suunto App on their iPhones despite seeing the ZoneSense App during the run on the watch:
You probably do not have the most up to date iOS app even though you do not see any update offered.

To remedy:
Don’t rely on automatic updates to all your iPhone apps, it does not work (in this case).
Go the the App Store on your iPhone
Search for Suunto App (it probably says “Open” but don’t click there)
Click on the title “Suunto App”, so the page displays that lets you explore the marketing blurb. Here it most likely will offer you a button saying “update”.

Clicking this is what helped me. Now I can choose the Zone DDA values in my recorded runs.

Thank you thank you, you my friend are genius. For people like me who are not so tech savvy explaining it in detail like this was so helpful and worked I now have zone sense on my app thank you

[Ze Stuart]

@althaea35 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

@the_ultraman Found a comment on Facebook from Janne Kallio

Note, there has been some weird / different behaviour on real time measurement vs afger analysis in few specifc scenarios, there will be upcoming mobile update which will fix this. There was a bug that awas left on release, but will be fixed soonish."

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/tAAGoDRCb2PJ96Mf/?mibextid=oFDknk

This produced error: NaN when I read it, expected: date, received: vague words.

@Raimo-Järvi I believe you are a deity of S+, do you have a date you can share for the fix?

[taziden]

@halajos said in Suunto ZoneSense:

@taziden have you had something like this in my post here? https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11713/race-misbehaving-in-multiple-ways

Yes, also using Ultra Walking S+app

[Christoph13]

@gone-troppo Haha, great, I had hoped you would read it as I got stuck exactly like you. No idea why the Suunto App would not be flagged as updatable even when searching for it specifically in the App Store, this caught me (us) by surprise. Glad to hear that it worked for you.

[Danny poleg]

I couldn’t find the topic that’s why I’m asking
In the RACE watch, I activate structured training and also activate ZONESENS, but when I press “start”, the ZONESENS option does not appear. I checked the training options and in a strange way the ZONESENS was off. I turned it on and still the same problem
The watch was reset and it didn’t help - I’d appreciate your help
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
@isazi

[Christoph13]

@Danny-poleg There appears to be a maximum number of Suunto+ Apps and Suunto Guides that can be active at any one time. If you cannot activate ZoneSense, it helps to deactivate one S+ app or one Suunto guide and try again.

[stromdiddily]

@Christoph13 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

Regarding the real-time use:
I am in my tapering phase for a race in about a week’s time. I will probably race by feel but what should the ZoneSense display during a half marathon if I manage to push myself just hard enough? What would I gain compared to say following a combination of pace/HR or Stryd Power?

Also, I have done the last five runs or so with my Polar H10 HR belt, and the zones appear to match exactly the ones I calculated based on the last race results (except one that is so far off to be untrustworthy).
What kind of training session would help to make ZoneSense more accurate in the time remaining?
Thanks

I would imagine you’re going to see a good amount of time in aerobic slowly progressing into anearobic and eventually v02 max if you finish hard

The main benefit I suppose would be to maintain whatever zone you’re trying to stay in while leaving room for a strongly pushed finish.

[Christoph13]

@stromdiddily Thanks. I am always weary of relying on a metric that I have insufficient experience with.
When you are racing, you want to be close to the special mark on your personal fitness scale on that day, but on the correct side. Looking at the handful of runs with Zone DDA data, it looks like I will be racing mostly in the yellow zone (in ZoneSense it is called anaerobic but I suspect what it means is that it is no longer fully aerobic, which is fine).
For the race this probably means to progress mainly through the yellow zone with some excursion into the red during the finish, however long that may be.

BTW, I am seeing some of the weird behaviour reported by others, too, i.e. pace or heart rate go up, ZoneDDA becomes more aerobic,…

I’ll see how the half marathon goes and then take a look at the data again.