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    • kriskusK Offline
      kriskus Bronze Member @BrunoH
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      @BrunoH Overall however, your zones seem to be somehow strange - last zone which should be really for maximum effort is much broader than any of the three previous zones.

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        BrunoH Gold Members @kriskus
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        @kriskus that is because I am old, fat and in bad shape. I get to Z5 very fast. Maybe that’s the reason why I am not getting the estimate. My poor Vertical doesn’t believe there are guys like me 🙂

        Perhaps I should try longer exercises by walking a bit faster instead of running because it exhausts me too easily.

        Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
        Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
        Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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          Mff73 @BrunoH
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          @BrunoH
          i am not an expert, but whatever the shape and the zones, Z5 should not be that huge. How much is your max HR ? You seems to be able to reach 180+ bpm while your Z5 seems to begin at 150/155, quite strange.

          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
          Suunto Vertical all black
          Wife : S9PP
          SA: Always the latest beta :)
          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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          • BrunoHB Offline
            BrunoH Gold Members @Mff73
            last edited by BrunoH

            @Mff73 I used a Norwegian University (NTNU) max HR calculator which takes into account the age, weight and how tall I am. According to that my max HR is 176 and that’s what I entered in my Vertical, but obviously in real life I can get over 176. My resting HR is set to 65, which is the value when I am sitting peacefully.

            All the zone limits in between are the default values from Suunto.

            max 176 100%
            Z5 starts at 153 87%
            Z4 starts at 144 81%
            Z3 starts at 136 77%
            Z2 starts at 127 71%

            Have I configured something wrong?

            Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
            Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
            Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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              SvenSchroeter @BrunoH
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              @BrunoH I had some trouble getting my head around all of this… So I started reading some of the material on the suunto website.

              https://www.suunto.com/it-it/sports/News-Articles-container-page/Figure-out-your-training-zones-and-supercharge-your-fitness/

              https://www.suunto.com/it-it/sports/News-Articles-container-page/know-your-resting-and-max-heart-rates/

              All in all… the generic formula does not work well. You have to make personalised stress tests to get the limits. Now with ZoneSense there is the argument that you can use this new inovative feature, and it will start reporting the thresholds for you without the need to perform and put yourself through the testing process.

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              https://www.strava.com/athletes/142980701

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              • PrenjP Offline
                Prenj @BrunoH
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                @BrunoH
                If the HR detected by the watch is correct, then your max HR should be at least 185 as you peaked over the 180 mark a few times. Those calculators are not that good at this. It’s hard to tell your real max HR without the lab test, but 185 should probably be close.

                Suunto Race

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                  BrunoH Gold Members @Prenj
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                  @Prenj @SvenSchroeter @Mff73
                  Thank you everybody, I will adjust my max HR and the zones accordingly. I’ll try again in a few days.

                  Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
                  Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                  Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                  • SvenSchroeterS Offline
                    SvenSchroeter @BrunoH
                    last edited by

                    @BrunoH I got a little stressed about all this at the beginning… but stopped worrying about my MAX Hr, and looked more closely at the LTHR value and then worked backwards from there.

                    I based my LTHR on hard run efforts at 5km and 10km distances (as I repeat these periodically as part of my standard training approach).

                    The new innovative ZoneSense feature (Suunto +App) is giving me relatively close LIMITS to what I had set so all in all it seems to add up.

                    Plus I got the Hr Belt from Suunto to try and get the most accurate readings possible.

                    PS. I am a Male / 38Years old / LTHR = 165bpm (approx) and have a 182MAX HR according to the formula… but do not even come close to that during maxed out efforts (measuring with the HR belt).

                    But even if the data is not absolute, because there will always be some error in the measurements (we do not carry medical devices on our wrists) as long as it is repeatable we can use it as a baseline for general imrpvement metrics. Which is the goal of everyone I think… Personal improvement both physically and mentaly.

                    Have a nice day everyone.

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                    Suunto Race (Wife Daily)
                    Retired: Suunto Ambit3 / Ambit / Core

                    https://www.strava.com/athletes/142980701

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                    • Mff73M Offline
                      Mff73 @BrunoH
                      last edited by

                      @BrunoH
                      as @SvenSchroeter suggested, if you are using a chest strap with RR capabilities, you could try ZoneSense analysis while changing your zone.
                      Maybe set them as appropriately as possible with reasonable max HR according to your recent real max reached (you real max should probably be little more, but …) and then look at what zonesense is “telling” you. After a couple of trainings, (even if Zonesense is still quite unknown 😉 ) it might give you its indication of what YOUR zones could be. Up to you to correlate then with your feelings during activity ,etc… and tweak everything (if not doing real effort tests).
                      Enjoy your next fit journey.

                      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                      Suunto Vertical all black
                      Wife : S9PP
                      SA: Always the latest beta :)
                      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                      • D Offline
                        DirkM
                        last edited by

                        There may be a bug with the sounds for messages.

                        When I switch my race s tones/alarm to vibration, I still get a beep for incoming messages.

                        Or have I just not found the right setting?

                        Suunto Race S ! Suunto 9 Peak ! Suunto Spartan Sport Wrist HR ! Suunto Ambit2R

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                          Egika Platinum Member @DirkM
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                          @DirkM in addition to switching vibration on, also open the tones menu and set it to “all off”

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                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            DirkM @Egika
                            last edited by

                            @Egika That was my mistake. Thank you. But now I also get a vibration when I use the crown, which as far as I can see can’t be turned off like the sound for the buttons.

                            I think it would be nice to only have a vibration for the silent notification for incoming messages.

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                              Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos initially when this screen was working properly, it wasn’t useless.

                              But now it is broken!

                              Before it was showing the moment, when you stop, so you could see your rest time (in the way I draw). But now it doesn’t (same with new 2.37.48 update).

                              Suunto Race S

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                                sebchastang Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                                @Brad_Olwin said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

                                @Tami999 Not a bug, these are design changes. I believe that color will be coming to some of the complications, this is the start and will make watch faces faster and easier to develop so they are not tied to firmware updates.

                                👍 good to know there is still chance to see design improvements and get back the original solar harvest complication icon (as shown on Suunto official pics ☺ https://www.suunto.com/globalassets/productimages/suunto-vertical/suunto-vertical-titanium-solar-canyon/02_suuntovertical_titaniumsolarcanyon-perspective-c-14-watch-face.jpg?height=900&format=jpg)

                                Suunto Vertical
                                Suunto Traverse

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                                • AntoineA Offline
                                  Antoine Bronze Member
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                                  Today i had a bug: when navigating in complications parameters for K14 display, my suunto vertical has restarted alone…

                                  Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                                    Tami999 Silver Members @Antoine
                                    last edited by

                                    @Antoine said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

                                    Today i had a bug: when navigating in complications parameters for K14 display, my suunto vertical has restarted alone…

                                    Happened to me too when I was testing new watchfaces twice. I cant remember which one I had during two time crashes, but its highly possible it was this new one K14. Gonna test and edit post.

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                                      The_77 Silver Members
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                                      I had a bug with alarms yesterday morning, but there’s no way I’m going to replicate it.

                                      I woke up to the alarm, and mashed buttons to turn it off, but it continued going on for two minutes whilst on the normal watch face. Alarms were at 7:00 & 7:01.

                                      God knows how this is replicable but something was up.

                                      Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR / 9PP Refurb

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                                        JanJ1968
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                                        Since the last update which was supposed to bring the watchfaces to the store I have tried every single work around that has been suggested: soft and hard reset , deinstall app, since a thousand times, …… nothing helps! I am on iOS with a 9PP and I hate the standard installed faces…. App shows 0/4 faces installed …… Please Suunto take care of this……

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                                          false Bronze Member @JanJ1968
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                                          @JanJ1968 not sure it can help, but… uninstall some sport apps. As for me, I had to sync my watch (race) for like 4 or 5 times, before I got the result

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